Yeah, a byproduct of the new system scoring beers with say 1 rating is a lot of 80s. I'm not happy with it and looking for ways to adjust.
I am also not a fan of the random 80’s score of a beer with only a few reviews. NA until ten reviews seems best to me.
I'd love to eventually bring back serving type and allow for multiple reviews based on that. As for the min chars, your longing to force reviews could reduce the number of beers being rated by around 50% and push those raters elsewhere if they opted to not review beers or we didn't come up with some form of other solution for simply rating beers. Forcing reviews will also encourage abuse (fake reviews/text padding/complaints in reviews), which increases moderation and subsequent actions on data and users.
Ten ratings before being scored did work well. I didn't like the smaller dataset and the impact on lists, but that could possibly be addressed in other ways over time. I've been reviewing options.
Why would we delete these beers? They're legit entries. And if they're reported as retired (or even become inactive), there's really no issue.
IMO, the threshold for characters in a 'place review' needs to be upped. These 2 sentences you're reading right now pop at 222 characters, more than the 150 characters needed, and I feel it's inadequate for a place review.
I still don’t like how beers with under 10 reviews now have a random number in the eighties for a score, rather than NA. It just seems a bit misleading to the untrained eye.
As previously noted, I've been reviewing options. Hope to come up with a solution before the end of the year.
I had to check out some of your beer reviews. Short and to the point with a clear description which works for me. People forget that most likely people are checking beer reviews in a store while shopping and running errands. I dont want to be in front of a refrigerator where 10 different guys just came in to buy a six of bud while I'm reading a war and peace review on a stout im interested in.
I'd still prefer a number of sorts as opposed to just NA. NA is meaningless whereas even a small sample of ratings (albeit even 1 or 2) still provides a data point that shouldn't be dismissed.
I agree with leaving the system as is. It’s imperfect, but better than any other beer rating system I’m familiar with.
I hope you can. Many great breweries in my area just don't get enough reviews by BAs to get ratings under the old system. The new system was an improvement but it really still underrates some great beers. Tough problem @Todd!
Any updates won't (and really can't) address underrated beers. A beer being underrated is highly subjective, plus user bias and lack of ratings will always come to play.
I strongly believe there needs to be a minimum before a legitimate rating is applied Statistical bias…