Tired Hands (January 2017)

I heard that the chairs didn't complain.

 

Was that a solely Azacca hopped beer?

I recently brewed an Azacca/Mosaic IPA (more Azacca then Mosaic) and I personally did not perceive what I would term "overripe" in that particular beer.

Cheers!

P.S. Have you had the Founders Azacca beer? If so, what do you think of it?

 

Yeah talked with one of my friends who was up at the front, dude tried to claim that his chair was in his car or some nonsense and they weren't buying it.

 

Oh ok. Didn't even say that, I am not waiting behind empty chairs or anything. Did it get physical or just verbal?

 

I'm referring to smelling just the hop pellets themselves. So I could see that if you over-used them. I have not tried the Founders beer.

The beer I brewed was not heavily hopped, as it was what I'd call a pale ale, that I added about 8 lbs of pureed peaches from our tree into secondary. I wanted the fruitiness of the hops to complement the peach flavor, not overwhelm it. But the late addition and dry hop was Azacca.

 

Light That Spills made it to Friday. A late holiday miracle.

 

Thanks for that reply.

Since you used 8 lbs. of peaches in that beer I would be surprised if you could distinguish the Azacca specific flavors in that batch of beer.

FWIW, over my 2 decades of brewing it has been my consistent experience that smelling raw hops is significantly different from what aroma/flavor you pick up in the resulting beer even for the single hopped beers that I have brewed. This includes beers that are heavily dry hopped.

Cheers!

 

He walked up to the front of the line around 4:00. When called out for it, he said he wasn't going to wait behind empty chairs--calling the system bullshit. Chris from Tired Hands came out and very politely explained to him that the chair system generally works for Tired Hands since it allows people to hangout in the ferm/cafe/other places in Ardmore/etc. He was asked to go to the end of the line and was told that there would be plenty of beer for him. He then complained that Other Half, Trillium, and Tree House don't allow people to disappear from their chairs. Chris politely explained that none of those places have a bar and restaurant that is open while the line is waiting. Dude then asked that Tired Hands sell him/give him just a few four packs for his trouble. Chris said no.

Dude was out of his mind.

 

Only 4 cases were available at opening. I wouldn't call that a miracle as that would sell out in a manner of minutes.

 

Haha. He did what many people claimed they would do if on this thread (wouldn't stand behind empty chairs, etc). Not saying he was right, but too many people talk tough online but few follow up in real life (I'd confront every line cutter, etc).

Just to be clear, I think he was dead wrong on what he did (or tried to do).

 

I know that sounds like a lot for a 5 gallon batch, but I had read that peach flavor doesn't transfer very well to beer and I concur. The beer only had a mild peach flavor to it.

If Tired Hand's Peach Milkshake beer is really as strongly flavored as people have described by the reviews, they must use a massive amount of fruit, or are also using some kind of concentrate to boost it.

 

I very rarely brew with fruit but I have read that if you desire a more pronounced peach flavor in your beers that a better fruit selection is apricots. I have no personal experience here to corroborate this.

Cheers!

 

Its not that strongly fruit flavored, I think the sweetness from the lactose increases the percieved fruit flavor. My reaction the first time I had a milkshake beer (it was the peach) was "huh? This is what people go crazy for?" Its a good tasting beer for sure but its not all that different from a lot of their normal IPAs, most of which I like more than the milkshakes.

Their normal IPAs also tend to be very fruity tasting, some taste more like mangoes than IPAs brewed with mango that I've had.

 

Scored some of The Light from behind the bar last night. Very happy. Sounds like it is drinking nicely right off the line, so I will crack one tonight most likely.

I wouldn't say it's "wrong," necessarily. It seems a little out of order to have to stand behind empty chairs. It's on Tired Hands to police the chair line, which it seems like they are happy to do. Kind of douchey to ask for them to sell beer before the official sale time, though.

Still seems like giving out tickets would make way more sense. Who goes to work at a bar to stand outside in January to police a line of empty chairs? You'd probably get more people to stick around and buy a beer if they have to walk into the bar as opposed to simply drive up and drop a chair.

 

I agree that some fruit added IPA beers probably benefit from confirmation bias when people describe the taste. Aroma definitely drives one's perception of taste, so when your hop flavors are full of fruit, that's what you're going to taste, actual fruit or not.

Plus when all of the sugar ferments out of fruit, it doesn't taste like the actual fruit anymore. Tired Hands adding back in sweetness with the vanilla makes sense.

 

The other plus of using a ticket system is that it entail one ticket per person (for purchasing) and would thereby eliminate the multiple people for a chair issue.

But as I have already posted, I doubt that Tired Hands would switch to a ticket system since that would eliminate the hype that comes with the current chair system.

The status quo of self promotion will in all likelihood be maintained.

Cheers!

 

Totally dependent on what part of the fruit is used. I have brewed using freshly zested citrus peel and those flavors do not ferment out.

Cheers!

 

I wasn't talking about you btw. I'm talking about all the people who claimed that they would throw the empty chairs off the line, stand in front of the empty chairs, etc. Yeah, right.

On the Other Half thread, got the same type of people berating other users, who posted about line cutters, about them not confronting these line cutters directly (in their face). Again, talking real tough that they would throw them off the line. One user complained that she didn't feel safe doing that, which I completely understand.

Anyway, this should settle the issue of the chairs once and for all. Tired Hands is OK with it and so is the local police department. Sidewalks are NOT impassable with the chairs over to one side. No real victims except the people who don't get their cans every time. /rant

 

True. My statement would only be true when the flavor derives from the juice/pulp/body of the fruit.

 

That is mostly true. I have had some Grapefruit IPAs that were brewed with Grapefruit juice and the tartness (acids) of that juice 'survived' the brewing process which distinctly provided the impression of Grapefruit in those beers. So perhaps a mixed bag here.

Cheers!