Too much Fruit?

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  1. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    First Framboise. Used the math from the Cantillon web page about Lou Pepe. Works out to 10.5 pounds of raspberries & 4.2 gal of beer. Keeping another 5 gal friutless to blend with, just in case.
     
  2. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    L:open_mouth:oks like a berry bomb to me. Raspberries are at the top of the list for fruit flavor/pound.
     
  3. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Looks like a wallet burner to me...

    How much did 10.5# of raspberries cost?
     
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  4. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    1.5lb of fresh organic berries from the farmers market + 9lb of frozen from TraderJoes ended up just about $35. I've spent more on a Double IPA.
     
  5. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    That is a lot, but since you can always blend I don't see it being a problem.
     
  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    BYO suggests 0.5#/G
    BeerSmith suggests 1#/G
    Herb suggests 1#/G
     
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  7. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Care to share your recipe for the base beer?
     
  8. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Super simple:
    7 pounds Belgian Pilsner
    4 pounds White wheat
    1/2 oz 4 year old Northern Brewer @ 60 minutes

    Mashed at 148° F
    Pitched 1 Qt "house culture"
     
  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd dump your second batch on top of the lees after you rack your first beer off that. There's got to be a ton of good stuff you won't get on the first round. Call it a second batch sparging. :slight_smile:
     
  10. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    For those of you who fruit do you sanitize the fruit before you rack the beer?
     
  11. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    Its going to be a fruit bomb, for better or worse. Do report back :slight_smile: Nice that you have something to blend with though.
     
  12. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I don't sanitize the fruit. I just wash it and put it in the freezer to breakdown the cell walls. The only time I use fruit though is for sours so I'm not too concerned about bacteria and wild yeast contamination. Although I don't remember where I read it but I've seen someone say you can soak it in 5Star to sanitize.
     
  13. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Different fruits require different ratios of lbs/gallon. Higher ratios are for more subtle fruit like peaches or blueberries but I would use a lower ratio for stronger fruits like cherries. I personally feel that raspberries are a strong flavor fruit, but it really all depends what you want your beer to taste like.
     
  14. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    How to hell do you get that stuff out of the carboy later?
     
  15. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Any quantity of fruit in a beer is 'too much fruit', IMO. Any quantity of raspberries in anything is 'Waaaay too much fruit' (one might surmise that I'm not fond of raspberries, and, indeed, one would surmise rightly).
    But I guess that's really not what you were asking :rolling_eyes:
     
  16. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    No way! I want the bugs off the fruit, at least half the point.
     
  17. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    After 2+ months in the carboy with hungry bugs... it just pours out. More concerned with racking cleanly.

    I did a beer with quartered/halved apricots. They looked intact after a few months, but as soon as they were disturbed they disintegrated. Slimy fruit slurry.

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  18. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Last year I did ~14 lbs of TJ's frozen raspberries in 4 gallons, worked out really well. Just depends how intense you want the flavor. It's relatively easy to get raspberry in the aroma, but it takes a ton to get that saturated jammy-berry flavor.
     
  19. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Santize?
    No.

    Pasteurize?
    YES!

    Heat the fruit to ~160°F
    Stir.
    Hold for 30"
    Stir
    Don't let it boil
    Stir

    Rinse...Lather...Repeat
    A double-boiler makes it easy to control the temperature.

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    Some advocate resting the fruit for 24 hours in a Campden solution.
    Not sure if this process kills off nasties other than wild yeast
     
  20. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Temperature warmed up, and things got active!

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