Trade adjustment

This. First trade I did I gave up SR-71 and was very worried I had sold myself short. Not only was I wrong (the deal turned out very fair) but I've established a long-term trading relationship with that trader. Best kind of trading.

 

FWIW OP handled this well. He sent a message back to me informing me I was not the first person to contact him and that he would work through the responders in order and get back to me should anything breakdown.

 

Asking for additional beers behind closed doors is essentially an auction & is against the rules as well as frowned on. I don't believe anyone here is advocating that.

Note, and this can be important, nobody is required to complete trades in the order of response. I've frequently seem an erroneous assumption that one has an ethical obligation to go with the 1st responder who can fulfill the trade.

Appropriate reasons one might choose someone other than the initial responder include:
1) Geographical distance, ie cheaper shipping, fresher beer
2) Geographical preferences, hoping to establish contacts in particular markets or regions
3) Personal like or dislike for the responder
4) Willingness or ability to expand
5) Shipping schedules or constraints are more compatible
6) Trading experience or fb

There are iso threads I've decided against because I didn't like the trader's attitude, demeanor, past trading history. However, if/when I do respond, the person I contact is equally entitled to decide against trading with me even if I responded 1st.

Trades are highly personal, deeply involved, interactions between two people & not merely a line queuing for a concert tickets. Carefully choose trades offers & partners based on the criteria that are most important to you, which might not be the same as who responded 1st or 2nd.

 

If he is one of the first 300 in line and a Mug Club member at Witch's Hat, then I guess you can call that Easy to come by..But fact is the beer is not easy to come by..As of right now, he does not have one..(might have one once they start selling them later today).

Fact of the matter is, If you put out a trade and someone offers it to you..you should take it...jmo

 

I have to disagree with you here slightly. If ANY OP, not just the one posing the question here, does not post preferences in the ISO:FT thread, then the only reasonable expectation is that the OP would go in order of responses to find the exact offer they were looking to complete. This holds especially true when the OP trade request is very well defined (as in this example).

The point of my post was merely to call out that the OP of this thread was not running an auction despite some trader's remorse, and, in fact, was working through responses chronologically.

I can agree that when ISO and FT provides lists (i.e. offering up and seeking 5, 10, 15, +, beers long with no specific base for a trade) that sifting through the inbox for the best offer is the norm, and IMO should also be considered an auction. I do agree with your point in these instances, and choose to mostly stay away from these types of posts for fear of potentially "bidding" against myself or others.

Though I will say, no one has the benefit of seeing any OP's inbox to ever know. So it truly is up to OP to choose how they operate. Ideally, if an OP has specific stipulations, they should be clearly stated in the ISO:FT post upfront.

Are there things one can uncover during the course of working out a trade that can sour either side? Sure. But I guess my POV is that, unless otherwise stated, I believe most BA's assume (or maybe hope) that OP's are working through responses on a FIFO basis, stopping on the first one that meets their specific ISO:FT to work through details of the trade.

 

I know that you would, brother!

 

We can certainly agree to disagree but I'm curious as to the reasoning behind this expectation.

When responding to ISO:FT offers I've had people tell me they were going with offers to do it ip even though the original threads didn't mention IP & the threads weren't posted with the ip offers. *shrug* It seemed reasonable to me. I've also had people apologetically explain they belatedly decided to go with a RTP. Again, it made sense to me & didn't seem wrong. Or someone who was offered a beer he preferred to those in his original request. It seemed to be a happy coincidence rather than auctioning on his part. It didn't seem unfair or shady as it was still his beer to trade or not as he chose.

Auctioning is against the rules, hence wrong, but there are multiple reasons to not go in the order of offers that have nothing to do with auctioning or seeking to w*i*n.

 

Completely agree. If I post an ISO and someone responds from Califonria and someone else from Maryland I'm going to take the trade with the guy from Maryland regardless of who responded first. The beer will travel far less distance, get there quicker and be less expensive to ship.

As long as I, or anyone else really, tries to get either party to add to get it done then I see nothing wrong with using location as a primary driver of who to trade with.

 

I guess my point was that it would be ideal if OP's that had preferences or stipulations post them in the offer. Again, behind the scenes in 99.99% of cases, no one but the OP and the Mods can know for sure what happens.

That said, I'm with you, everyone has a slightly differing POV. Just like beer tastes. Which is ultimately why we are here.

 

If you got &+ and nooner 10, it looks like you got one hell of a deal

 

To me you came up with the trade offer, the fact that your inbox imploded means you undervalued your beer. But, to go back and take the best offers that are greater than what you asked for would be a behind the scenes auction, although it is clear that it not what you intended. I would take the first offer that meets your original ask that you are most comfortable with. I would say in general taking the first offer is a good way to go, but as others have stated there are conditions on that and it could be the first offer you are comfortable with.