trade value 3 french hens?

How about what you paid for it?

 

this seems accurate, particularly for a beer you picked up off the shelf. however for 2TD you're asking for an qually priced beer from the same series that has a slightly lower bottle count (I believe) that has been cellared for a year.

Sometimes you get those old 2012 DL for 2011 DL trades but I would sweeten the pot a bit to make up the exorbitant cost of cellaring for a year.

 

2 Turtle Doves and a Partridge in a Pear Tree!

 

$4$.

There's no rarity or hype factor here.

3FH for 2TD will be a tough one, IMO. 2TD was a better beer and was earlier in the series. Plus, anyone with 2TD probably already has 3FH.

But you never know.

 

I received 3 French Hens as an extra in a trade. I don't think it's worth a whole lot yet, but here in about 5 years it'll probably be whale status.

 

Extremely doubtful. It's not a very good beer, and if anything, this series is losing hype as time goes on. Plus, it's generally only the first beer in a series that gets the ridiculous whale status (see: PiaPT, 02.02.02).

 

Very true, though I still think that 04.04.04 has a good amount trade weight even though it might not be a whale.

I haven't had the 3 French Hens, but I had 4 Calling Birds... it was bad. Real bad. Probably the worst Bruery beer I've had.

 

4 Calling Birds - 3.80 rAvg
3 French Hens - 3.83 rAvg

Prepare to be disappointed again with that 3FH. But at least the disappointment will be .03 less severe this time.

 

I can't even imagine the number of people holding onto these beers just because of this reasoning. There's going to be a baseball card effect on any value it would have had.

In 6 years, you might see an ISO from someone who was late to the party, and 60 people are going to respond trying to unload it.

 

Unlikely, like baseball cards, "collectable" beers are rarely worth collecting. That's why cards from the 80's and 90's are rarely valuable (unless they are Griffey Jr or Ripken Rookies), because people already knew that cards were valuable then. What I mean is that no one thought Partridge would be worth getting since: (1) the beer was not particularly good (2)the Bruery was brand new and (3)no one knew if they'd stay in business for another year let alone become one of the most hyped breweries on the planet. So PiaPT just kinda sat around SoCal bottle shops for a while. After Black Tuesday was released and the hype from their other barrel-aged series beers, Bruery stock shot up through the roof and then there was much more interest in PiaPT, after the fact. People now are holding onto 2TD and 3FH hoping that their value will rise, but it's a fairly common beer and it's value will not substantially increase over time like PiaPT has especially since that was a local and much smaller release.

 

Go back farther than 80s and 90s and I think the cards reference fits. Just like you said PiaPT was not collectible (hyped) at first, baseball cards back in the day mostly found themselves in the spokes of kids' bikes. It was after the fact that they became valuable. Then production shot up, and people started to collect these mass produced items thinking they would be worth big bucks in the future.

Same deal here. Many people who initially bought PiaPT and kept one unopened may not have intentionally done so for flipping it for a profit, but once that "value" shot up, the number of each subsequent release being hoarded for the sake of flipping it some day has got to be outrageously high. Combine the increased production, increased numbers being kept "cellared", and multiply by the fact the beer isn't unanimously revered as GOOD, and you have a $4$ one-off.

 

I think we agree. You just didn't explain what you meant by baseball card effect. I took that to mean you thought 2TD and 3FH would be valuable, when in fact you implied that they weren't, like newer baseball cards--I believe the same

 

Regular 3FH isn't particular rare, nor is 2TD, honestly. PiaPT and the barrel-aged 2TD are fairly difficult to obtain, the soured 3FH less so but still harder to find (since it was a RS only release). Barrel aged PiaPT? Well, you only need one kidney, technically...

Moral of the story: It'll probably trade on the same level as other expensive local beers, you might be able to land an Abyss or something but I'd suggest holding on to it or going $4$ for something you want that you can't get in your area.

 

Yeah as has been stated regular 3FH doesn't have much value. Trois Poules Francais (barrel aged and soured 3FH) was a RS beer and was somewhat limited. Overall PIAPT is the only really valuable bottle from the regular 12 beers series. The barrel aged versions trade higher but, as expected, the earlier in the series the better.