Trade Value Thread (2019)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Jan 8, 2019.

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  1. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
    Trader

    Spring is only a few (or 4-5 if you live in Minnesota like me) months away so lets look forward to warmer times. I'm sure TVT will help ease the pain of the cold for all of you fine folks out there, so here it is.

    The guidelines for this are the following:
    1. Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units)
    2. Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc.
    3. The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section.
    4. Have fun with this!
     
  2. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
    Trader

    I would like to try for a Cantillon lou pepe gueuze (any year), but Im not sure if I have what it takes. Was thinking FO b4 + de Garde Peach (cognac) + Coconut B bomb. Am I in the ball park? Maybe I need to switch out with more sour/wild ales in the offer? Always appreciate the help!
     
  3. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Honestly, I think you're way over. LPG isn't quite in the same stratosphere as LPF, and especially LPK.

    I'd like to think Peach Cognac itself is pretty close, maybe with FOb4 as plus.
     
  4. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
    Trader

    That is very helpful and nice to know! I think ill try your suggestion and go from there.
     
  5. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
    Trader

    Ill just add LPG seems like one of those beers you always have to "overtrade" for compared to RVRU (relative VR units) accepted as secondary cost. I'd think the 3:1 would close but you might be surprised
     
  6. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (0) May 4, 2017 California
    Trader

    Following the cantillon trend here. Just acquired a bottle of however improbable from bottle logic. Any ideas on trade value with respect to cantillon seasonals / limited? Would really like to obtain fou foune or lpf
     
  7. RNbeerfan

    RNbeerfan Pundit (770) Jan 26, 2015 New York
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    Should be able to get Fou I would think. Probably need a plus for LPF
     
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  8. SiddFinch

    SiddFinch Crusader (484) Dec 18, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I’ve got a couple of non-public release Hill bottles so kind of tough to figure their value... Damon el Desarollo and 2016 Double Barrel Damon. Would either pull something like a KBBS or Derivation?
     
  9. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
    Trader

    Would ac ba fudge bucket w vanilla and karma swirl pull a maman 18? Would I still need a plus like a FOb4 or Horus territory?
     
  10. Everythingismilhouse

    Everythingismilhouse Initiate (0) May 24, 2018 Pennsylvania

    Would a Bramble Rye and 2018 Vanilla bcbs land a BG&E from this most recent release?
     
  11. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
    Trader

    This years bramble assuming, I’d say it’s short by another nilla or more
     
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  12. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
    Trader

    Yep I would agree. Nath or Fou is a get, would probably need to add for LPG and even probably St lam with how small the yield was this year.
     
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  13. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    I would agree. It may be tough to trade this year variants for it since they were distributed pretty well other than prop and reserve.
     
  14. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
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    I posted earlier but I just noticed I wrote it it wrong. Was looking for Maman and was thinking ac ba fudge bucket and ba henna karma and maybe a small plus on my end would so it?
     
  15. cmukid87

    cmukid87 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2017 Michigan
    Trader

    I think that's close with the FOb4 realm plus. What helps your side is limited-ish bottles from different regions, Midwest-South-West.
     
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  16. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Was wondering about the Virginia trade scene namely The Answer. Has anyone done anything recently for any of their crazy fruit shake or higher rated non BA stouts and what it takes?
     
  17. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
    Trader

    So I really need to knock Morning Delight off the list. Been offering Prop 18’ and BCBSV or Prop 18’ and FOb4 for a MDb5 but just got crickets. Do I really need to add a plus?
     
  18. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I think you might have better luck presenting a list like I did giving up rare 15 and rusty nail. I wish I could have kept my rare but if you gotta tick..... throw a list out with a 2-3. Unfortunately too much FOb4 was made and it pales in comparison to FOb3. I've been told the b3 is better than the b1 now.
     
  19. maxmeier3

    maxmeier3 Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2018 Iowa

    I traded both my md’s from the release away pretty quick and regretted it. Since getting more the day after kbbs I’ve been a lot pickier on what I’m looking for in exchange. I agree you should put out a list of options and be open to discussing when you find someone with a bottle to spare. I don’t think you are off by much value-wise but maybe just provide a couple bottle options to sub in
     
  20. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    Thanks for the input. I actually did drop a list on Tuesday night in the limited trade thread but still nothing. Thinking ppl are just holding onto them.
     
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