Trade Value Thread (2019)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Jan 8, 2019.

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  1. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
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    I thought the BA trade forum was a free market.

    If someone has a THH or GTS and wants BBT3 this seems like a reasonable transaction. Similarly if someone has PVW 23 and wants 1 BBT3 because of scarcity or because no one is trading BBT3 then this also seems like a reasonable transaction. The free market dictates what the BBT3 is worth, not 1 person. This 1 person does not have a monopoly on all BBT3. However, if this person acquires 20 bottles of BBT3 through their own trades then they have a right to value their BBT3 at whatever they like. If people are willing to pay what this person is charging then that reflects supply & demand within a free market.

    Particularly when dealing with scarce goods ("whales") and fluid secondary and trade values it is obvious that values while rise and fall. Each trade reflects value within a free market. Especially with something as fluid as beer secondary value or trade value this becomes even trickier to predict. Over time some beer value declines (CBS because of increased supply) and others increase (SR71 because of decreased supply).

    I appreciate the role of the moderators who help in this TVT forum. It is not easy to predict current fair market values for trades. I think it is a very hard job to keep up with what beers are trading for. This is why most people, including myself, use the resources in this forum to gauge fair market values.

    However, I think it is wrong for moderators in this forum to say what a beer should or should not be worth. This determination comes from the people who are trading. This is why I don't believe any single trade is a "rip off" or "unfair trade" as is often labeled in the completed trades forum. Again, it is a hard job to predict what a beer is worth in real time, but this is obviously subject to change.
     
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  2. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I see lots of trades ISO Assassin 19but very few for Assassin 18. Is there a noticeable difference between Assassin 18 and Assassin 19? Would these trade 1:1?
     
  3. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yes they are completely different. Anyone who has had both, would not trade them 1:1. The '19 is a much better beer.
     
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  4. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Got it. I’ve had the 18 but not 19. What type of plus would it take to land the 19?
     
  5. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Honestly not sure. Value wise they are not far apart, but people with ‘19’s are also likely to have tried ‘18 already.
     
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  6. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
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    Small plus. Also taste varies. I felt at assassin 19, 18 was much better than 19, but then at X 19 had improved. 18 was more chocolate fudge up front which I like and still fee 18 is better in my opinion.
     
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  7. odcardinal

    odcardinal Zealot (690) Apr 12, 2015 Florida
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    Normally you would be correct....but you obviously you have not traded on FB. Dude single handedly raised the value of BBT b2, and most recently Black Magick. He has memes made after him.

    Shit, I'd do the same thing if I had access to the bourbon he has. And from what I've recently seen most big bottles only sell or trade for big bourbon bottles.

    And maybe he doesn't have a monopoly on BBT b3...yet. But he will soon.
     
  8. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Is that what happened to blue/green BM? They exploded in value the past year.
     
  9. odcardinal

    odcardinal Zealot (690) Apr 12, 2015 Florida
    Trader

    Correct.
     
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  10. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
    Trader

    Who is this guy
     
  11. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't know but I hear he drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.
     
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  12. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    And what group? I haven't seen any of this, and I put more blame on the people capitulating, personally.
     
  13. doubleipa444

    doubleipa444 Devotee (316) Oct 24, 2010 Indiana
    Trader

    would a BBT b3 pull a Maman '17 and BBT b1?
     
  14. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I am not in any of the groups, but I know he's in STL Burrito.
     
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  15. Yabu

    Yabu Savant (1,150) Feb 4, 2015 California
    Trader

    quite possibly. If you have the BBT b3, take a shot!
     
  16. ColomboLQ

    ColomboLQ Initiate (0) Dec 21, 2015 Texas

    We don't dare speak his name.
     
  17. 12ArmedGoon

    12ArmedGoon Devotee (316) Sep 28, 2016 Kansas
    Trader

    Why not? I think I've looked into this enough in the last couple days to ascertain who it is, but why not mention it? Is he a member here?
     
  18. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
    Trader

    He's a member EVERYWHERE.....
     
  19. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    As an example, I am not on FB. I know the name If I see it, but I do not know how to spell it.

    Smells like Favreau though.
     
  20. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
    Trader

    Would Tete de Cuvee 16 + Framboise du Fermier b2 for

    *Lou Pepe Kriek + 50N
    *Westly + 2 other SARA (thousand summers, 7, proper discourse, etc)
    *Zenne b1

    Would these be fair trades? I am the Tete + FdF side. I have not seen a lot of Tete moving these days. Also not sure how many people have LPK & 50N that want to move them in the same trade....

    Thanks! I appreciate the expertise of the people in this forum.
     
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