The guidelines for this are the following: Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units) - aside, is VRU still a thing? By now there are prob some who don’t even know what VR is. If that’s how you’re going to talk about things maybe Average Seasonal Cantillon Units would be a better standard. Or just carry on. Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc. The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section. Have fun with this! I'll start this off with a couple questions Prop 18 vs 19. Saw someone FT 19, ISO 18 1:1 close easy, but if I'm FT 18, ISO 19, I'd assume I'd need a small + still to pull 19 from someone? some TH/HF/Suarez cans? Tete 15 vs 16, pretty even? Is one more valuable than the other? And would either go 1:1 with Assassin 19?