Trade Value Thread (2020)

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  1. sjguglielmo

    sjguglielmo Zealot (522) Aug 26, 2009 Minnesota
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    I agree with this advice and valuation. @dlcarst you can also keep an eye on the trade forum. I suspect you'll see plenty of ISO: Maman posts over the coming days, which will give you a good idea of what you can trade for.
     
  2. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
    Trader

    @sjguglielmo great advice! Considering Maman is one of those beers that holds its value throughout the year and is always sought after you could sit on your extra bottle for a while and see what offers roll in like suggested above.
     
  3. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Agreed. Only with this year's Monster Tones. 2020 from what I heard fewer Theory members got and it's also the best of all years.
     
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  4. NJ908Jimmy

    NJ908Jimmy Devotee (348) Apr 7, 2019 New Jersey
    Trader

    Would love some help from the team.
    I am ISO: PVW 15, GTS, WLW

    FT: EC 18, PH 11, PVW 12, MWND, Blood Oath 6, M10, Weller FP

    Do I have enough there to get 2 out of the 3, W/O trading everything? and/or what is a fair ask? Specifically for PVW15
     
  5. mindtrip2012

    mindtrip2012 Devotee (392) Sep 25, 2014 North Dakota
    Trader

    For reference, I traded a Lot B + WLW to get a Pappy 15 a few years ago. No idea where it sits today.
     
  6. AlexIrigoyen

    AlexIrigoyen Zealot (635) Jun 3, 2016 Georgia
    Trader

    I’m hoping to package a CBC Maman + Perennial Anniversary 18 for a combination of Revolution Deep woods cans and a nice bottle of Pips. If I want 12ish cans of Rev back (not VSOJ as that seems to trade higher and I’ve been lucky and had it a few times already) what are some Pips bottles that would be a fair ask? I’m not very informed when it comes to trading for mead. Thanks!
     
  7. sjguglielmo

    sjguglielmo Zealot (522) Aug 26, 2009 Minnesota
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    It's going to be very difficult to trade for PVW15 without a big anchor. When you say PVW 12, you mean Lot B? Certainly a high-valued bourbon, but it's not even halfway to the value of PVW 15. I don't know the value of PH11, but I'd say you're looking at your other 6 bottles for a PVW 15, and even then you're probably still short.

    GTS and WLW will be much more attainable. You should be able to easily trade your Lot B 1:1 for a '20 GTS (or with a plus on the GTS side if you get a '18 or '19). For WLW, you'd need something like Lot B + WFP + EC18 (or maybe PH11 instead of one of these...again, I don't know about that bottle).
     
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  8. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Any chance you have some insight on how bourbons like regular Blanton’s or OWA would trade for recent (‘18, ‘19, ‘20) El Catador bottles? Is 2-1 in line with values? Is 3-1 possible or asking too much?

    I have no idea if these are bourbons that are hard to come by in Florida. Thanks.
     
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  9. Natef53

    Natef53 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2017 Connecticut

    New here, take it easy.

    I have a bottle of Tree House - Truth that I grabbed last week. I split another bottle with my buddy and it is awesome. I would rather trade it for some bourbon. Any thoughts on what I could get? Is this even a trade that people would go for?
     
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  10. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    You can search the subject/title line in the Trading limited forum. There were some ISOs for Truth there. Not sure if any were offering bourbon, but you can check.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/search/119685431/?q=Truth&o=date&c[node]=87
     
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  11. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I honestly don't know about bourbon availability in Florida, but OWA is fairly available here in Ohio. However I see pretty favorable trades for OWA, and especially Blanton's. I don't see why 1 bourbon wouldn't get 2-3 El Cats.
     
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  12. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Pundit (828) Apr 16, 2017 New York
    Trader

    Hey everyone,

    Trying to score a couple heavy hitter stouts and i was wondering what are some examples of returns I could get for Weller Full Proof Single Barrel Horus Member/Store Pick.

    Thanks!
     
  13. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Any guidance on stouts you are looking for? Here are some examples based on STL stuff

    WFP SP + for BBTb4 (plus maybe like a blessed)
    WFP SP for Maman 20 + (plus could be ^)

    I'm not really adding in any "bourbon tax" so you may get a little bump on your value

    Also I just traded a WFP SP for ADWTD DO 17 + Blessed + Blanton Coconaughty
     
  14. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Pundit (828) Apr 16, 2017 New York
    Trader

    I am not a secondary expert at all. I don't have facebook and this is the only real place I can try to trade for these bigger bottles (I do most of my medium level trading on instagram). So I don't know how far off I may be in trying to score these asks, but basically I am looking for:

    Starry Noche
    Distraction's Crest
    BA Distraction's Grasp
    Monster Tones
    Monster Park Coconut Smores
    Samuel B2

    And the "big" ticket items I have for trade are:
    WFP Single Barrel Horus Member/Store Pick
    Old Elk Single Barrel Horus Member/Store Pick
    Bokke Abrikoos 2018
    Horus Plume Ruffled
    Horus Kentucky Dosed
    and the upcoming BA Snowbirds release (but I have no idea if people still search those out or not really)

    I have a bunch of + beers to add in like EQ LBDS and non-BA Horus but i think they would mostly all be +'s and not necessarily a main part of a trade.

    I am just really looking for some advice and want to make sure i dont offend someone with a bad offer or send too much on my end you know?
     
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  15. Ckgibu

    Ckgibu Zealot (548) Jun 3, 2020 Hawaii
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    For reference, WFP SPs have been going for 300-350 secondary. But, as mentioned before, bourbon tax not included, and you might be able to get more from the Weller heads out there. Good luck on your ISO! Cheers!
     
  16. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Tou could replace BBTb4 with Starry, monsters Park and samuel with my senareo. Not sure about the others
     
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  17. thegeneral21

    thegeneral21 Zealot (533) Aug 3, 2016 Alabama
    Trader

    How does maman ‘20 line up with Phase 3 Stouts like Eunioa’s and minutiae)
     
  18. Dcg7101

    Dcg7101 Initiate (165) Dec 12, 2019 Illinois
    Trader

    Hi all. I’m wondering what people’s thoughts are on value for the most recent batch of KBBS compared to BBT. My guess is that BBT 18 would likely require a good plus on the KBBS end, but that other vintages may be closer to 1:1. This being my best guess I am curious to hear what others more knowledgeable have to say, and appreciate any feedback on this.
     
  19. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
    Trader

    Eagle rare 17 year

    Where is that value at?
     
  20. Dcg7101

    Dcg7101 Initiate (165) Dec 12, 2019 Illinois
    Trader

    I’m not an expert on this by any stretch but recently traded minutiae for a Maman 18, and had an open offer for Maman 19 for minutiae 1:1. The 18 trade was part of a package, but more or less was 1:1 for minutiae as well. I’ve heard from a couple people whose palates I trust that Maman 20 continues the downward trend of recent years, although I don’t think this means a lot in terms of trade value given the Maman name. With P3 still being relatively new and garnering a lot of attention recently I think there’s a fairly high demand for any BA bottle from them. FWIW I posted minutiae a couple weeks ago ISO an older Maman and received almost 10 replies, so believe an offer ISO Maman, and offering minutiae or eunoia will receive high interest.
     
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