Trade Value Thread (July 2018)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Jul 3, 2018.

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  1. KBlodorn

    KBlodorn Pundit (920) Oct 3, 2014 Ohio
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    Curious what kind of value I’d need to add to an 18 Ass to get a 17 Maman

    Thanks
     
  2. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    FOB3 level bottle or a little more
     
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  3. KBS

    KBS Savant (1,078) Apr 25, 2014 Michigan
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    I think MD b5 could pull a 4 year vertical if the MD reviews are good. Darkness, Dark Lord, KBS are all popular verticals and novelties that would be fun to do with friends. I would give my 6 year KBS vertical for a MD b5 depending on reviews. I would rather share with friends a harder to get bottle than a beer they’ve probably had many times, just a variety of years.
     
  4. FourFingers414

    FourFingers414 Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2015 Illinois

    I hate to say it but a KBS vertical probably wouldn't pull a MD. KBS is widely distributed & the coffee tends to fall off very quickly with that beer. When you're talking about beer such as MD & trading you need to understand that it pulls the same level beer. DL is brewery only but there's a shit ton produced. Darkness & KBS are also distributed throughout several states. Keep in mind that the reason a 12oz bottle only went for $100 value is because it came in a 4pk & the 4pk w/glass & box went for over $400 value. B5 is back to 22oz bombers & a glass. So therefore the value will show based on format & desire. I would assume the value will most likely go back to what it was for b3 which was over $300 a bottle or at least close to it. A KBS vertical can be purchased for under $100 & the Darkness vertical for under or around $250 depending on how many years. Personally, I'm interested to see what darkness variants go for since its the first time bottling them. The quickest way to see what a beer can pull is by posting an ad. If you're close, you'll know. If you're far off, you'll know.
     
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  5. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    I think you would need more than an FOb3 but less than a VR.
     
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  6. KBlodorn

    KBlodorn Pundit (920) Oct 3, 2014 Ohio
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    Good stuff, appreciate the feedback. I'm hoping something like a Goshawks Territory and a Bourbon Paradise do the trick, but, I understand with a big bottle like Maman, people tend to opt for quality in low bottle counts over quantity.
     
  7. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    The guidelines for this are the following:

    **The last week saw a bit of a turn towards discussions of secondary value. Please avoid discussing this, guidelines as below but if you feel someone is short, please aid discussion with regards to what sort of + they may need to add to close the trade**
    1. Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units)
    2. Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc.
    3. The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section.
    4. Have fun with this!
     
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  8. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    BBT .. Trying to land. Would a label us notorious+ land it?

    What level plus?
     
  9. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    This may be a dumb question - is there a B1 and B2 of this, or is this like tape pop where label us was one of their bottles last year, and now this year tape pop is. I.e. Both one offs unless they repeat them at some point.
     
  10. KBS

    KBS Savant (1,078) Apr 25, 2014 Michigan
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    Correct. My point was not that I thought KBS could pull much, just that a single rare(r) bottle is more desirable to many people than a vertical of easy to obtain beers. For KBS specifically, the vertical is most likely worth keeping to most since it will only pull about a $60 secondary bottle..not much. The experience of the vertical is "worth" more than what it can pull.
     
  11. Curedmeatncheese

    Curedmeatncheese Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2016 Massachusetts

    What kind of plus would KBBS b3 need to add to land a PVW15. FO, VR, Assassin 16, FF, more?
     
  12. AyatollahGold

    AyatollahGold Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2016 Indiana

    FT:
    FO b1
    FO b2
    FO b3
    FO b4
    Leche Borracho
    Number Crunch
    Fundamental Summation
    Ground State b1
    Ground State b2
    Myx
    Roll For Initiative

    Just saw somebody offer 10:1 bottle logic for ADWTD. Is it really that hard to get that this is even close?
     
  13. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Only iwaad had multiple batches. Pop. Rock. LUN are all single batches
     
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  14. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Was it for the set?
     
  15. AyatollahGold

    AyatollahGold Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2016 Indiana

    Didn't seem that way to me. He even said 10:1. Just doesn't seem like it would be that to me, but idk.
     
  16. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    It was for ADWTD B3--200 bottles 1 pp B1 3 years in barrels. Offer was over the top but for that bottle is still a quantity offer. Nice offer if you want it to close
     
  17. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    My guess is for a set or I believe batch 3 has super low counts. The latest singles don’t go for this obviously.
     
  18. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    More I believe. But I am not exactly sure on the plus as I don’t trade bourbon.
     
  19. marshy21

    marshy21 Devotee (344) Mar 9, 2018 Illinois
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    any early indication for what EoC b2 is at in VR units? would b1 + b2 be enough to land a Monster Tones?
     
  20. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    I mean they might be both about a VR give or take but even together I don’t think anyone is giving up monster tones. They are so rare, worth so much, and so universally liked that people with them will probably keep or trade up to the handful of things worth more.
     
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