Trade Value Thread (June 2018)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Aetherbulb, Jun 5, 2018.

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  1. KevSal

    KevSal Savant (977) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    off, instead you should trade that pn8 to me!! :grin:

    seriously tho ive see Nillerzzzz trading all over the place, in some case part of a package deal, in others 1:1 with some big time beers

    so with that said, seems like you have a decent chance, especially now with its recent release
     
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  2. Slack

    Slack Champion (845) Feb 14, 2012 Virginia
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    There is alot more ISO for Answer crowlers than Mexican Cake due to the amount of Cake distroed on the east coast. IMO, Answer crowlers should get you a Coffee Cake no problem.
     
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  3. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Disciple (377) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
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    What are the thoughts on Hommage (‘17) for Fou Foune 1:1? I have the Hommage and haven’t had many bites when i’ve posted this so i’m wondering if i’m off here.

    Cheers!

    -Kevin
     
  4. juablu

    juablu Initiate (125) Jul 10, 2016 California
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    Any idea where A Stout with No Name will trade for in regards to BL Stasis. I know it hasn’t released yet but I’m looking to lock one down. Have RFI and Space Trace but I don’t know if I should offer 1:1 or if 2:1 is needed.
     
  5. Grizleeg

    Grizleeg Initiate (30) Mar 17, 2018 Iowa
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    Sorry to be stepping in on a Sunday, but I'm wondering what the value of a 2014 Dark Lord is or what it could retrieve. Thanks!
     
  6. lm858

    lm858 Initiate (103) Aug 1, 2014 Italy
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    How much more would I have to add to an SR-71 to get a 20 year pappy? Or is 15 mofe realistic? Any input is appreciative. Cheers.
     
  7. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    I can't answer your question directly, but I can say that SR-71 seems like one of the best anchor's to land a 20 year Pappy if there ever was one. The only ones better that I can think of are one-off lambics or ghost whales like JD Cake (Do people even really want some these ghosts anymore though? I've seen several offer it FT, but not once ever seen anyone ISO. Same with other ghosts.)
     
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  8. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    It doesn’t have much value. Trades $4$
     
  9. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Should be 1:1 with the ones you listed
     
  10. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Hommage is easier to obtain. Think you may 2 hommage for 1 fou
     
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  11. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Devotee (465) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    That’s a tough one. The offers for SR-71 right now are crazy in the beer side. People are offering up 4-5 whale type beers and getting crickets. But I also think if they offered those same 4-5 whales for 20 year, there would be no bits either. If you are going to try, I would do it soon. Pretty sure more SR-71 is about to come out again and who knows what that does to its value.
     
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  12. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    I would like to add that - unless I have missed it - no one actually knows if SR-71 "B2" will be the same as B1. B1 was Pappy barrels as I recall, as it was Assassin that was aged longer. Nothing yet on the barrels or anything else for B2 though.
     
  13. jtrick86

    jtrick86 Initiate (23) Sep 25, 2014 Florida
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    I have ASWNN and would accept 2:1.
     
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  14. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,880) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Unfortunately, I think you're still off (full disclosure: I do not have a Nillerzzzzz to trade).

    The number going around was 400 bottles of Nillerzzzz, so there just wasn't much to begin with. That said, a fair amount of people (maybe 100?) were able to go through the line twice, so between mules & double-dipping, there should be some bottles on the market. Just not very many.

    The other variable is that locals seem to think they've hit the jackpot with Nillerzzzz. There has been local bitching about people "depressing" the value of the beer, both on the secondary & trade markets, for aiming too low. I suspect anyone who still has one is going to be looking for something big, or a big combo, for their newly minted whale.

    Last but not least, worth trading your firstborn for? Not IMHO. I thought is was excellent, but preferred the pour of Puddling Dribbles I had on release day. If you get a chance to grab that one, do it.
     
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  15. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Disciple (377) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
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    Huh. Wouldn't have thought that.

    Thanks!
     
  16. jtrick86

    jtrick86 Initiate (23) Sep 25, 2014 Florida
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    There were only ~200 bottles of big trouble and everybody dance. And big trouble was fiyah. I'm not sure that is a fair trade at this point.
     
  17. boarder1999

    boarder1999 Initiate (31) Dec 16, 2014 California
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    Due to Beeradvocate limitations I can't search the FT forums for BA M3 from Abnormal. I'm trying to figure out what it could trade for. Without being able to search I can't see if people are trading it 1:1 with RFI/ST, with FO, with FF, or with BAA.
     
  18. boarder1999

    boarder1999 Initiate (31) Dec 16, 2014 California
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    Is FOb3 1:1 with CSV Mexican (not the BA version)? What about FOb3 1:1 for MDb4?
     
  19. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Initiate (188) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Have they released it before?
     
  20. boarder1999

    boarder1999 Initiate (31) Dec 16, 2014 California
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    I think this might be the first time it has been bottled. I couldn't search for just M3, since that is too short of a search term. Abnormal M3 (non-BA) shows up occasionally.
     
  21. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Think it would trade somewhere between FO and FF
     
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  22. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    CSV mexican would need to add a plus

    Mdb4 is 1:1 with FOb3
     
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  23. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (89) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    The guidelines for this are the following:
    1.Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units)
    [2]Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc.
    [3]The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section.
    [4]Have fun with this!
     
  24. Franfab

    Franfab Initiate (70) Apr 3, 2018 Illinois
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    I'll kick it off. Trying to understand what is a fair ask for Handjee - specifically when asking for fruits/sours in return. Fan of Casey and Side Project
     
  25. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (89) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    With a bottle like handjee you're in the realm of OG tete and a few really nice adds or b2 Ouse ferm. Casey there's no single bottle that should go for handjee probably but some combo of leaner, jammy, supreme clientele, rasp cut et cetera would get it done. Otherwise could trade for significant quantity of good stuff but can't quantity what or how much unless you put up a specific ISO
     
  26. jbagwell4

    jbagwell4 Initiate (41) Jan 18, 2016 Missouri
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    Any thoughts on ratios regarding what it would take to land Transient Canuckley, Kentuckley, and/or Ruckley with a FT of various SP bottles (AdF, Fuzzy, Pitter Patter, Fencerow, RdP)?
     
  27. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    I would agree with with he had to say. Probably be multiple bottles. With that said, I have a few sp sours and casey limited and looking for a handjee if you want to try. May not be what you are looking for though.
     
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  28. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Initiate (100) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Adf seems to be landing a few of those bottles. The others I would expect to be either 1:1 or 3:2 with sp.
     
  29. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    To clarify, there are sours that are 1:1, just not necessarily from those breweries. Well, Lambics, anyway, but not sure that is what you are looking for.
     
  30. izzyismyrott

    izzyismyrott Aspirant (289) Jan 5, 2015 Indiana
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    I've been toying with the idea of trading my DL variant Lounge Against the Macro Machine for some bottle logic.
    Mxy, Space Trace, Number Crunch would be my dream trade. Mxy sounds amazing, space trace is easily in my top 3 and I've never tried number crunch. Would also love to add a 17,18 DL for another bottle logic.
    Fair? Close? Way off and I'm over valuing the variant?
    I wanted the groups feedback before I look like an A-hole.
    Thanks cheers
     
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  31. Billy_Bars

    Billy_Bars Aspirant (234) Jan 18, 2014 Illinois

    I know this isn’t your question, but dollar for secondary dollar, 15 Pappy and WLW are the best in that tier. I had all 3 Pappys at WhiskeyFest, and 15 was hands down best. 20 was very underwhelming, and 23 was great, but not as good as 15. And WLW may be better than all 3.
     
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  32. Billy_Bars

    Billy_Bars Aspirant (234) Jan 18, 2014 Illinois

    Pretty fair and close, IMO.
     
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  33. cmukid87

    cmukid87 Aspirant (239) Jan 30, 2017 Michigan
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    I'm looking at trading for some BA and/or variants of Mexican Cake. Am I in the wheelhouse with the new Transient release, Kentuckley, Canuckley, Bring the Ruckley?
     
  34. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    I'm less familiar with how these trade - as it seems like offers/completed trades have been all over the place. That said, Willet MC should be somewhere around BC Reserve/Rare 15/FO B3. Scotch/Port I think are a little easier to come by, as they are slightly polarizing to people, so trade a little lower. Calvados (The "new" AB MC) trades the highest of the most recent BA releases, but not sure where it stands currently. Somewhere between FO B3 and VR, but not sure where. Trading at VR seems a little high to me.

    Coffee Cake seems to vary.widely. Seems to be anywhere from the DL/Huna/Darkness/No rules level to BC Reserve depending on who is trading and how bad they want it.
     
  35. cmukid87

    cmukid87 Aspirant (239) Jan 30, 2017 Michigan
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    Thanks. I'm mostly looking at barrel aged. I think scotch and port are on the low end, bourbon is an average to baseline and the AB is certainly high. I'm almost wondering if I put together the set of Buckley, Bark Lord, Kentuckley, Canuckley, Ruckley and throw in some hops and/or No Rules or BA Expedition if I can get the 4 bottle BA Cake set.

    On the flip side, I'm on the fence on if I even want to because this years Transient set is some of the best beer I've had in a long, long time.
     
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  36. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    Both of those thoughts are reasonable.

    My initial reaction is that I think a number of people would have a harder time letting the set go for something that seems less whalezy, as that's what people seem to do with MC sets. I think it could happens with the right set of eyes, just people seem to do these type of trades less often =/. Frustrating for sure.

    Always great to have the choice of "I love these beers - do I trade them for beers to try or just drink the delicious nectar? :grin:"
     
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  37. boarder1999

    boarder1999 Initiate (31) Dec 16, 2014 California
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    To be clear, are you talking about all 3 BL stouts for Lounge? Or 1:1 on either of those BL stouts?

    I think Lounge is worth maybe all 3 together, but NC is getting harder to find, as is Mxy. Probably a fair trade, but might be difficult to find someone who actually has all 3 and is also willing to part with those 2 rarer ones.
     
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  38. Yabu

    Yabu Aspirant (207) Feb 4, 2015 California
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    I think FOb3 is trading higher than mdb4 nowadays. Definitely awhile back was 1:1 The desire of FO continues to climb, and inventory is shrinking. Watch out for the next batch! :slight_smile:
     
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  39. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (415) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    Sorry, I am fundamentally programmed to discount anything that a California trade says that might increase BL beers.

    Thank you, Please come again!
     
  40. Yabu

    Yabu Aspirant (207) Feb 4, 2015 California
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    What are you taking about ?

    I didn't say the next batch will trade higher.
    The next batch, will of course be easier to acquire.
     
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