Trade Value Thread (Q3 2018)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Aug 14, 2018.

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  1. D09daryl

    D09daryl Crusader (446) Mar 11, 2017 California
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    People have been able to taste it at festivals or whatever and the early reports (from what i've seen) are that it is better than the last 2 batches. Take it with a grain of salt....
     
  2. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    No you are not way off, but you are offering beers that someone with a 15 Rare most likely already has or has access to without having to give up a bottle that retailed at like 80 bucks.
     
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  3. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I'm not sure what batch, but it was a 750 MD.
    I traded a ANTEAD Vanilla and a Sunday Brunch for Morning Delight and Kentuckly.
    1 for 1 certainly seems reasonable.
     
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  4. cmukid87

    cmukid87 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2017 Michigan
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    I mean trades/sales/etc that have closed already. Quality of the beer itself is almost always high to start, especially with something with a lot of hype, then settles over time to be more indicative of the actual profile. That's why I said it was a gamble to wait. Wait and the beer is average and you win. Wait and the beer is better than previous batches and you've lost.
     
  5. Freshly_Squeezed_Ry

    Freshly_Squeezed_Ry Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2017 Florida
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    I see what you mean. Thank you for clarifying.
     
  6. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Drop in value is not necessarily just due to a potential difference in quality.

    There should be more of this MD than there has ever been in the past based on how easy it was for most people to get tickets. I did not end up landing one, so I have no dog in this race. All that said, it is a larger format (probably because they made so much), and I expect the value to end up being between a MD B4 (approx. 1:1 with FO B3 or Rare-15 or 1/2 VR), and a VR. We'll see.
     
  7. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    Well, looks like this is too rare, so rare in fact, that noone has ever heard of it... :sweat_smile:

    I thought there was a good deal of demand for Huisstekerij H.ertie blends, but I guess that was just wishfull thinking after seeing that bottle of Esszet Geuze by him on BBB for over $1000.
     
  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    paging @PSU_Mike

    There's not too many people that I know (of) that are well acquainted with rarer/uncommon lambic - at least not stateside. Hopefully he can offer some helpful advice.
     
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  9. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Are people really closing FO trades that they ask for? I’ve wanted to try this beer for years and it seems like there is a ton this year and yet people are trying to get absurd stuff with it. It was even in stores for crying out loud. Just curious what people thought about it.
     
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  10. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    Trades through various places I know have close :

    12:1 for Kbbs
    12:1 for SR-71
    6:1 for fundamental forces
    4:1 for BAA (at least 3 times)
    3:1 for BA sump
    1:1 for Canuckly/kentuckley/ruckley
    1:1 for Vlad the Neapolitan (at least 2)
    1:1 Grasp of Darkness (at least 3)
    1:1 J.K. Atrial b8 (like 10 times)
     
  11. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Thanks for sharing so it does seem a lot of people on here having been trying to hit high. Hopefully it becomes a little easier to try and get as things shake out.
     
  12. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    Yea it’s in a weird place right now, people with it are trying to use it as an anchor to trade up. People ISO of it are usually looking for multiples, it will settle eventually.
     
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  13. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    Without turning this into a completed trades thread, I have seen it close 3:1 for VR and 1:1 with some of the more limited degarde stuff like the new Cognac Peach. It might help if you say what you have access to and then people can help you organize a trade for it that is reasonable.

    The forum is flooded with those posts asking for way over on your side and undervaluing the other side and there really isn't a mechanism to limit them or redirect them. Reddit was nice because you could upvote fair or generous offers, here people just spam the same absurd offer every day, hoping to get lucky. It's happening already with MDb5 on both sides.
     
  14. LuckyOneSix

    LuckyOneSix Zealot (674) Aug 11, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    4:1 on BAA huh.. damn. I wonder if a 2x FOb4 + 1x FOb3 + some sort of extra (MC10 perhaps?) would get it done for BAA
     
  15. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    Maybe, BAA18 has been dropping recently from what I have heard, but those 4:1 deals closed super fast. If you had a 4th stasis bottle of whatever else you would probably be set.
     
  16. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    Am I over by offering a DL ‘17 + ‘18 for a FOb4 or even?
     
  17. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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  18. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    Some feedback would be nice sir! :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  19. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    What?
     
  20. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    I don't expect one DL to close a FO. DL is often seen as a $4$ bottle. If you figure a bottle could get you 3-5 good cans and a FO might be 7-10 good cans, you are about on point if you offer both. Issue is shipping across the country for one bottle.
     
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