Trade Value Thread (Q3 2021)

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  1. Slack

    Slack Pooh-Bah (2,018) Feb 14, 2012 Virginia
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    Courtesy of @Michaelpro824 and @MattOC from previous Trade Value Threads.

    One KEY note: Q2 Trade Value Thread is now locked and with the sweeping change to the trade forums that occurred on 4/21/21. The focus here should be solely on beer. Otherwise, it’s likely to be moderated. Thanks!

    The guidelines for this are the following: Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units) - aside, is VRU still a thing? By now there are prob some who don’t even know what VR is. If that’s how you’re going to talk about things maybe Average Seasonal Cantillon Units would be a better standard. Or just carry on.

    Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc.

    The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section.

    Have fun with this!

    I would encourage anyone who did not get an answer on the Q2, 2021 thread to post again. Cheers!
     
    #1 Slack, Jul 8, 2021
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  2. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Maybe someone can PM me the equivalent of a current VR unit, so I can use it for reference?
     
    #2 bret27, Jul 8, 2021
  3. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Pooh-Bah (1,557) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It's ridiculously dumb that conversations need to be framed this way (and they truly don't). The abstract "VRU" is traditionally like $200, and the BCBS Vanilla Rye is like right under $150 nowadays. I hope that helps!
     
    #3 William_Navidson, Jul 8, 2021
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  4. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thanks. And I agree.
     
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  5. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Savant (1,049) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
    Society Trader

    Discussion on the trade forum recently has me itching to track down an A&T. What are thoughts if I offered up my b4 BBT? Thanks in advance for feedback.

    Cheers!

    -Kevin
     
    #5 KevinJohnson2, Jul 9, 2021
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  6. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I think that might get it done
     
    #6 not2quick, Jul 9, 2021
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  7. Leftofthedial

    Leftofthedial Savant (1,068) Nov 17, 2011 California
    Trader

    My understanding of A&T is that it's nearly at Zenne b1 level, so it would be a lot closer to BBT b2 in terms of trading than BBT b4. Just don't see a lot of A&Ts FT whereas BBT b4 are offered up a lot more often.
     
    #7 Leftofthedial, Jul 9, 2021
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  8. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
    Trader

    What would it take to land a handjee? I’ve got 2021 assassin, tequila assassin, Casey member bottles and some other bottles. Obviously 2021 assassin would be the anchor but what would the plus need to be?
     
    #8 Lorddevn, Jul 10, 2021
  9. True_Bodhisattva

    True_Bodhisattva Devotee (342) May 11, 2019 California
    Trader

    Anyone have a beat on what Derivation 13 goes for? Any chance of even finding one? The only thing of high value I have is a Final Form set.
     
    #9 True_Bodhisattva, Jul 12, 2021
  10. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,341) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
    Trader

    What do the Private Press beers cost on average to members?
     
    #10 Davl22, Jul 13, 2021
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  11. MKE_Hopspur

    MKE_Hopspur Devotee (398) Mar 15, 2017 Wisconsin
    Trader

    $30-$35
     
    #11 MKE_Hopspur, Jul 13, 2021
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  12. Borandon

    Borandon Devotee (342) Dec 8, 2016 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Hey y’all anybody have any thoughts what it would take to land vsoj?

    I have a 2015 rare for trade, can I pull 2 vsoj? Or 2 vsoj plus a couple strawberry jackets? I know there’s a lot of crossover in Chicagoland so I understand it might take the right set of eyes.

    Any comments or criticisms would help. Thanks
     
    #12 Borandon, Jul 14, 2021
  13. monstershu

    monstershu Crusader (450) Jun 10, 2020 Illinois
    Trader

    I think you might be able to get 3 or 4 VSOJ. It’s trading at about double cost right now.
     
    #13 monstershu, Jul 14, 2021
  14. KevinJohnson2

    KevinJohnson2 Savant (1,049) Jul 8, 2013 Michigan
    Society Trader

    I was thinking he could land 1 VSOJ with a plus… Maaaaaybe two. Don’t see any way a Rare pulls 3 or 4 cans though.
     
    #14 KevinJohnson2, Jul 15, 2021
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  15. monstershu

    monstershu Crusader (450) Jun 10, 2020 Illinois
    Trader

    My bad. I thought it was a 2010 Rare. You are right.
     
    #15 monstershu, Jul 15, 2021
  16. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
    Trader

    I agree with this. I think A&T is near Zenne b1, but just a bit below. Although I think a BBT4 can get this done 1:1 internationally, especially as a part of a larger trade. Not a ton of people are interested in the pain and agony of international shipping.
     
    #16 Affinity, Jul 15, 2021
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  17. Affinity

    Affinity Savant (1,134) Nov 24, 2018 Missouri
    Trader

    D13 is probably around 4-5 VRU. I usually don't think it's worth it to overpay for 1 beer, but D13 was one of those beers that was totally worth it. FWIW I had this around the same time as OWK and remember thinking fresh D13 was better than 2 y/o OWK. I don't think a final form set is enough of an anchor for this beer, but could definitely be a piece to entice someone to give up their bottle. Good luck!
     
    #17 Affinity, Jul 15, 2021
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  18. True_Bodhisattva

    True_Bodhisattva Devotee (342) May 11, 2019 California
    Trader

    That’s definitely a hefty price! Wish I could say I had enough for it haha. Thanks for the reply!
     
    #18 True_Bodhisattva, Jul 15, 2021
  19. carlso_aw

    carlso_aw Pundit (848) Jan 10, 2016 Indiana
    Trader

    Yo gang. I want a Rye BBT. In return, I want to give up....well, some combo of the following:

    BBT4, Minutiae, Eunoia b4, Scooopcake B1, MT Ultra Vanilla B1, Hung, Drawn and Quartered '18, Smells Like Vibes, Dark Lord De Muerte '17

    I've already tried BBT+Minutiae+Eunoia B4 and while people said it was fair, no one bit....

    So what other combo seems reasonable and enticing? Also, would the full list get me a D13?
     
    #19 carlso_aw, Jul 17, 2021
  20. Gambyt20

    Gambyt20 Pooh-Bah (2,028) Jan 14, 2016 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Hey all, looking for some thoughts on trading for a can of the recent Pulpit Rock Cake Talk with a can of VSOJ. Would that be a 1 to 1? Could I get Pulpit Rock Cake Talk + LOL for 1 VSOJ or would I need to add like an AB Ryeway, Strawberry Jacket, or Supermassive to get both?

    Thanks in advance for any feedback.
     
    #20 Gambyt20, Jul 17, 2021
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