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Trading "Pet Peeves"

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by jp7161, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind May 8, 2012 California

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  2. JulianB

    JulianB Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

  3. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    Not being able to watch the ensuing hilarity when a poster makes a huge fuss about how X brewery is overrated and then posts ISOs 3 or 4 times for that same brewery's beer in the following weeks.
  4. Archemedies

    Archemedies Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    When someone says they will ship the following day, but ends up shipping a week later. Why even bother saying you can ship the next day if you can't. I'm dealing with this situation right now, and not only did they ship a week late, but they shipped right before the the hurricane hit, and delivery has already been delayed once.
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  5. Kuemmelbrau

    Kuemmelbrau Aug 2, 2008 Louisiana

    i hate people with pet peeves!
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  6. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Jul 19, 2009

    Hating yourself must be a bitch. ;)
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  7. Kuemmelbrau

    Kuemmelbrau Aug 2, 2008 Louisiana

    ^ Always has been... :)
  8. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I'm pretty sure I posted this already but it's worth repeating.

    People that send you crap extras that are out of market beers for them. Essentially shitty beer that they don't want.

    Just take a dump in the box and save us both the trouble.
  9. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    Not a trading pet peeve, but people referring to Sam Adams Utopias as Utopia has been getting under my skin lately.
  10. Prospero

    Prospero Jul 27, 2010 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Bound to step on some toes with this one....

    But it's traders that ask for insane values for beers that have 1 review and not released yet. (*cough* Bolt Cutter).

    [rant]I have an equally sought after beer with smaller batch size and same price... I've had other offers and they want to trade an unreleased 1 review beer for Cantillon Saint Lamvinus, a $35-40 bottle that's very highly ranked.[/rant]

    <sigh>Just bitter I guess
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  11. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    Haha yah just like these ones:



    (except the second one could possibly refer to any vintage, although I assume since it was a recent release it pertained to 2012 vintage primarily).
  12. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    And while we're on this topic, I wish the bros would just ban "What's it take" and "What's my CBS worth" and "What's White Birch Going for these days" threads. Seriously. Just put up a goddamm ISO/FT. You either have the beers that will land it or you don't. If you don't know what a DL 09 is "going for" then maybe you should either lurk a bit longer, stop trying to "win" the trade, or just give up. If you want to know what your CBS is worth, put it up on eBay and take the auction there. If you want to know if you have something that will land a BA batch 9k, put up a trade thread with an offer that you'd feel comfortable making. If it doesn't happen then you just found out that, guess what, it takes more.
  13. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Jul 19, 2009

    I am confused man, please cut to the chase and tell us how you REALLY feel?
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  14. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    Fucking nihilists
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  15. abecall98

    abecall98 Aug 11, 2007 California
    Beer Trader

    But how else would I know what things go for if I can't talk about it? What's my post worth, What would it take to get a reply?
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  16. JulianB

    JulianB Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

    I think "what's it take?" type threads are reasonable if the main goal is to hear from people that have traded for that beer recently, especially before ISO/FT replies were turned on so there was no way to know what trades were getting done. It's a way of getting information without clogging up the ISO/FT forum with offers that would never get done. "What's my X worth" is just a thinly-veiled form of auction and shouldn't be allowed.
  17. n2185

    n2185 Apr 14, 2008 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    My biggest petpeeve: Just say NO! It's okay to politely refuse an offer--I won't be upset. Hell, I'd rather you insult me than just completely ignore me as a way of saying no. In one case I had a tentative trade set up when a guy went silent. When I messaged him back, he asked what our trade was again. When I responded, he just ignored me again. It's not difficult to respond to offers. Just copy a simple, "I decided to trade with someone else, but thank you for the offer" and paste it to every offer you don't want.
  18. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    But did he ask you if you'd seen his cellar?
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  19. Franch

    Franch Mar 22, 2011 District of Columbia
    Beer Trader

    any idea what my CBS is worth nowadays?
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  20. BK1017

    BK1017 Nov 9, 2009 Texas

    Disagree. As a fairly new trader that doesn't trade regularly, it's helpful to know what the current market is like for a certain beer. The information helps to come up with a fair and equitable offer that is respected in the community. I want to be cheated, nor do I want to cheat anyone. Nor do I want to be laughed off the block like a 'noob.'

  21. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Jun 7, 2005 New York

    Did not fix that for you.
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  22. BK1017

    BK1017 Nov 9, 2009 Texas

    Damn it. I guess my masochistic tendencies are making themselves known.

  23. Bluecane

    Bluecane Dec 30, 2011 New York

    People pimping their own beers in the thread, i.e. I love this beer, it's so fantastic, it's really one of my crown jewels. Even worse is when they then say they just want to share it -- look how nice I am! -- yet ask for walez that seem at best marginal.

    Also, this maybe isn't quite a pet peeve, but when there are major typos and really poor grammar/lack of capitalization/lack of punctuation, I try to avoid those traders. If they can't take the time to post respectable-looking ISO, I'm not confident they will be a reliable trade partner. Maybe that's short-sighted, but that's how I feel.
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  24. Mposha

    Mposha Mar 30, 2008 Florida
    Beer Trader

    Bad grammar in a thread could translate to bad grammar when printing a fedex label!
  25. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Dec 28, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    This has already been covered but...

    So many trades offering good beer for better beer. For ex. Ft: Bcbs ISO: bcbs variants, "looking to go $4$".

    WTF get that crap outta here.
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  26. biniek13

    biniek13 Nov 29, 2008 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    The one that irk's me and has happened to me a few times is when both sides agree on doing the trade and are just figuring out the details, and then half way through the person comes back to me and says, "dude, I just got an offer I couldn't pass up!! Hope you understand..." WTF is that crap!?!? We had a deal? I guess some people's word is better than others...
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  27. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    I don't believe that everyone thinks bcbs variants are better than straight bcbs. Last year's bcbs was stellar and I preferred it to coffee and bramble. The larger format and lower allocations are key drivers of the valuation of the variants - not necessarily the quality.
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  28. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Dec 28, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Fair enough. Still though, it's seems like its the ft: semi rare iso: rare

    I'd agree with you in the sense that I like bcbs over kbs. Sometimes more going on with the beer isn't necessarily more of what I'd prefer. That may not come off correctly but I get your point.
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  29. Pahn

    Pahn Dec 2, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    i would say BCBVS > BCBS > BCBCS. didn't try bramble because it sounded awful. didn't try rare b/c of sticker shock followed by demand explosion.
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  30. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    I prefer making my own coffee bcbs. It is cheaper, I don't have to fight for a bottle, and I can adjust the flavors. More folks should try this and other fun infusions, eg. toasted coconut, dried cherries, a vanilla bean (can be used for multiple infusions), different peppers, and combinations of all of these. It works much better than many may think. I suppose that this approach is more relevant for those who drink their beers than to those who are acquiring trade ammo.
  31. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Jul 19, 2009

    Agreed, one vanilla bean can be split, the good stuff inside used for whatever floats your boat, each half of the split bean will make 3 12 oz BCBVS clones (open, pour, stir with half bean for a bit and let sit for a few minutes, and then STILL flavor some sugar if so desired. Yes real vanilla beans are expensive but I honesty think they make a BETTER BCBVS than the bottled form. And I don't say that lightly as I love BCBVS.
  32. Bluecane

    Bluecane Dec 30, 2011 New York

    And people who get BCBS :)
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  33. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Nov 20, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    How do you do the coffee? Add a few beans to the bottle or filter it through some coffee grounds? or just add a touch of coffee?
  34. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    Start with a high quality, freshly roasted, light to medium roast coffee of your choice. Grind it just to a coarse grind, and combine with the beer in the vessel easiest for you to use. 1.5-2 tablespoons of ground coffee/12oz is the way I like to go with it. Let steep for 7-10 minutes and then pour through a fine-mesh sieve or coffee filter. It helps to use a straw or spoon to taste test as you get past minute 5 with hopes to dial in the flavor profile/coffee influence that you desire. You could use less and steep for a longer period to get the influence, but the "prettier" notes of the coffee come out in the following prescribed time...much like french press techniques.
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  35. kojevergas

    kojevergas Aug 15, 2010 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    People who post "has this been completed yet?" within two minutes of a trade thread being started and think it's hilarious.
  36. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Nov 20, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Nice. I'm definitely gonna try this and the vanilla bean idea. Thanks.
  37. atoulouk

    atoulouk Apr 25, 2011 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I'm tired of getting old IPAs as extras. Last 2 trades I've received and IPA as an extra that I was really excited to try only to drink it and taste nothing but malt.

    If you're tempted to do this, don't. Send something else or send a message saying that you're light on locals at the moment and can only send ___ extras.
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  38. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Nov 20, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Got around to doing this yesterday with some nice espresso beans. Used one of those tea strainers and about 8 beans that I broke up. Worked perfectly. Tasted as good as BCBCS. I have a vanilla bean for tonight. I'm thinking I could cut a small piece of it off. It's pretty pungent, so it should work well.
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