Trading Pet Peeves

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by nc41, Nov 10, 2016.

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  1. TurkeysDrinkBeer

    TurkeysDrinkBeer Savant (1,064) Sep 8, 2018 Virginia
    Society Trader

    Mummy taping is never required! Shipped bottles and cans of all shapes and sizes and if properly packed do not need a single piece of tape. But your point was not lost on me, the end goal is to always get the beer there safely!
     
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  2. TurkeysDrinkBeer

    TurkeysDrinkBeer Savant (1,064) Sep 8, 2018 Virginia
    Society Trader

    Always electrical and never any other type. The pull tab you mention I call a "buddy tab", what we can it at my place of employment. lots and lots of taping going on so those tabs are a life/time (or even sanity lol) saver.
     
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  3. TurkeysDrinkBeer

    TurkeysDrinkBeer Savant (1,064) Sep 8, 2018 Virginia
    Society Trader

    Another trading pet peeve of mine, the over use of acronyms on trading forums and sites. Is it really that hard to type more than 2 or 3 letters so I actually have a clue what the hell you are talking about?
     
  4. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I agree. This can be accomplished numerous ways especially in the way a person wraps. Sure, mummy wrapping works for some, I just choose not to do it that way and I’ve had no issues.
     
  5. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I also don't think that mummy taping will actually protect bottles any better than normal taping, but if you feel that you really need to wrap a bottle up super tight, simply use a few layers of cling film over the bubble wrap before mummy wrapping it.
     
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  6. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    On the issue of tape and rubber bands, I just don’t see the need. I wrap everything a good 3 or 4 times and lay it in the box. I just don’t see how the thing could come unwrapped? I pack everything nice and tight to avoid any crazy movement. How are the bottles going to move so much they become unwrapped?
     
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  7. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Using electrical tape on a cap is a waste of time. The only bottles I have ever received that have leaked from the cap have had either electrical tape or packing tape on them. Moreover, both leave glue all over the cap and bottle which is annoying.

    The only tape to use is self-adhering silicone tape for plumbing. There is no glue, it is actually designed to create a seal, and is very easy to remove. I’m always surprised that no one seems to use this. I suppose it is a little expensive, but so is this hobby.
     
  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Never tried using that tape on bottles, but getting that shit off a pipe is stupid frustrating. I actually considered using it until I remembered how frustrating that was everytime I did plumbing.
     
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  9. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    It comes off glass very easily. A tiny score with scissors or a knife and it literally pops off.
     
  10. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try it the next time I ship!
     
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  11. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

  12. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
    Trader

    I truly understand your frustration regarding this, hopefully this helps out a little.
    http://www.beertradingglossary.com
     
  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    LOL! Thanks for posting this. As someone who is always trying to keep up and stay abreast of the various beer acronyms (and failing miserably), this is a huge help.
     
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  14. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
    Trader

    I can't lie... I've had luck typing acronym in Google and it pulling up the correct beer. Haha

    At the same time. I'll use acronym for thread title and full name in the description
     
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  15. mdg164

    mdg164 Crusader (424) Mar 28, 2017 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    The feedback system isn’t specific enough. Positive feeeback gets left for adequate trades all the time. There should really be 5 levels of feedbacks (exceptional, above average, average, below average, poor) to encourage people to go above and beyond. Each level should be specifically defined based on communication, packing, extras, etc. Also, I wish people who didn’t respond could somehow be marked via a feedback system, or at least in a thread exposing them.

    Speaking of not responding, someone was recently offering a BA coffee beer that was just average at release, and is long past it’s prime. (He has been repeatedly offering it, still is as of recently.) But I have a friend who always wanted to try it. He wants a case of NEIPAs from a popular brew house in a tree, and offers to pay the shipping. Great news, I will be there the next week and I live in the same city and he doesn’t have to pay this shipping... no response. I sent a “last chance” message... no response. I sent a “I guess you aren’t interested?” the next day... no response, but all read in a timely manner.
     
  16. Bruno415

    Bruno415 Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2016 Minnesota
    Trader

    Lol I do this all the time!
     
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  17. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
    Trader

    Totally agree, and the lack of response issues and flaky traders. I haven't really traded in the past although I've been a member over 10 years and now I remember why. I'm trying to get some trades going and I post ads and guys reply hey I'm looking to do this for that. I say ok great and propose a trade and never hear back from them. I reply again crickets.. Again the same thing and I can see each time the guy does in fact read the message. This has happened 6 times now!! I even setup a local trade in person and exchanged cell phones and nothing... The guys just seem to die and never replies. I've pretty much given up on trading at this point as it seems it may be easier to just go on ebay or a collectible site and just buy and sale beer instead.
     
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  18. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    This is a personal pet peeve of mine as well. I wish I had an answer as to what can be done about it.

    From a moderator standpoint, this is a pretty difficult problem to police. Unfortunately, not only is the problem increasingly widespread (and seems to be getting worse all the time), but verification is particularly time consuming and difficult when this sort of thing occurs.

    So at this point we've been trying to handle the problem on a case by case basis. Individuals who simply flake on a trade (express interest initially, but then cease all further communication with a prospective trading partner when they get a) a better deal; b) get cold feet or decide they don't want to bother with the time and work involved; c) realize they aren't able to fulfill their side of the trade (typically happens when a beer they hoped to obtain at a release sells out before they can get any); d) end up drinking it themselves; etc.), we simply recommend that you add them to your no trade list and walk away. I realize it's annoying/irritating, but assuming you aren't out any time, money or beer, our feeling is that the injury is minimal and it's better to just walk away. On the other hand, if one of the parties expends time, effort and/or money in order to obtain a specific beer for a prospective trading partner, and then the prospective trading partner ceases all communication... in that case the injury is a bit more palpable/significant, and at that point we recommend considering starting a Bad Trade thread.

    That being said, we're always open to suggestions and other ideas on how to handle this. I'd love to come up with a better system than what's currently in place, as I'm pretty dissatisfied with the current status quo.

    Cheers!
     
    #278 John_M, Oct 25, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2018
  19. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
    Trader

    Ok it's not a big deal it's just annoying to have guys message you about trading and then blow you off. Maybe it's because i'm not a know trader with 50 previous trades? Who knows, but as long as I can add them to my no trade list that's good enough for me. BTW how do I add someone to my no trade list???
     
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  20. Rustytacos

    Rustytacos Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2018 California
    Trader

    I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but if you had already started a conversation you can leave the conversation and have the option not to receive future messages. But if there is a no trade list that would be better.
     
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