training my palate

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  1. garciaike

    garciaike Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2011 Texas

    Hello everyone, I've recently decided to train my palate so I can open myself up to different styles of beers. I was wondering what others would recommend? I don't like hoppy beers like IPA so at the moment that's out the question for me. Thanks for all the feedback!
     
  2. thomda11

    thomda11 Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 California

    What style/examples do you enjoy?
     
  3. garciaike

    garciaike Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2011 Texas

    At the moment I'm trying anything till I find something I like. I tried a chimay red recently and loved it. I also liked a wells sticky toffee pudding and liked that a lot. Shiner bock is what I love but with so many choices out there I wanted to try more.
     
  4. tlery

    tlery Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2012 Illinois

    I'd suggest starting with a style you already enjoy. Take notes while you drink. Find subtleties in the beer that may remind you of something completely unrelated to what you're drinking. For instance, when I drink most traditional lagers, I'm reminded of the smells coming from a large bread bakery I grew up around. Take the flavors you're already familiar with and apply them to what you find in the styles you already enjoy. From there, you can branch out and, maybe over time, you'll gain an appreciation for styles you never liked before.
     
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  5. thomda11

    thomda11 Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 California

    If you like Chimay Red, I'd try other dubbels like Westmalle Dubbel, or Ommengang's Abbey Ale. If you don't like hops, I'd also selfishly advise you to try some hefe's as it is one of my favorite styles. The standard bearer for Hefeweizens is Weihenstephaner, but Paulaner and Franziskaner are also delicious. I would suggest, however, to maybe dabble in some mildly hoppy beers, because a good IPA is a beautiful thing.
     
  6. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    try some IPAs
     
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  7. garciaike

    garciaike Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2011 Texas

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I currently have a hoogstraten porter in my fridge and am looking forward to trying it. I've had IPA beers and didn't enjoy them. When I feel I will have a better appreciation for them I'll give it another go. Thankfully I work somewhere that sells all kinds of beer and I get a discount.
     
  8. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    You have to just try everything and compare what you smell/taste to what other people have posted in their reviews. You will begin to pick things up over time.
     
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  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You're getting some good advice from the other posts here. Drinking beer is a good way of "training." (I wonder how many athletes say the very same thing.)

    I would buy one small bottle of each of the three common Chimay beers (red, blue, white). Drink one a day for three straight days. Don't eat food while you drink them. Decide which one appealed to you the most. Use this site to explore the style of the beer you picked. Buy 12 oz singles of different American brewers take on that same style. Decide which one appealed to you the most. Try everything else from that particular brewer to see what other styles click with you.
     
  10. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    My journey started with amber ales (Fat Tire and Alaskan Amber), porters (Deschutes Black Butte, Anchor Porter), dark lagers (Boston Lager, New Belgium 1554), and brown ales (Big Sky Moose Drool, Rogue Hazelnut Brown). Besides all of those examples being pretty damn good for how commonplace and inexpensive they are, they all share another thing in common: they are super approachable. It's a good thing you're digging Belgians right off the bat, so definitely follow the previous advice to try other dubbels, tripels, and quads. Hope you have deep pockets though. :wink:

    I also avoided hoppy bitterness like the plague at first, which is a pretty natural response as a beginner beer enthusiast, so I wouldn't worry too much about that right now. Don't shut IPAs completely though, come back to them occasionally to retest your palate development. When/if you get to that point, I highly recommend Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA - very low on bitterness with lots of fruity notes. I also really enjoy Stone IPA, SN Torpedo, and Firestone Walker Union Jack as accessible go-to's. Try a few double IPAs (Firestone Walker Double Jack, Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Oskar Blues Deviant Dales) too if you get adventurous and haven't gone there yet, you may find those more approachable than single IPA's due to a more hefty, balancing malt backbone.

    Hopefully that was enough name dropping to getcha started! Have fun and enjoy the ride!

    PS - Be sure to make good use of the forum search feature. It's an extremely fast and convenient way to dig up good info that may have already been discussed.
     
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  11. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    As you follow the steps recommended above, write out a review of each beer you try. You don't need to publish your review on here, but take the time to commit your thoughts to paper. When finished look up the beer on here, tick the box that says reviews only, then sort by top reviewers and start reading several reviews. As you read compare your notes with theirs. Two things will happen, you'll begin to identify reviewers who's words you trust because they report tasting what you tasted and you'll begin to recognize that they are describing flavors and using words that you didn't include in your review but that you realize should be part of your own description. Keep doing this tasting, writing, reading a lot. Any type of training requires time, analysis, performance and repetition until you are happy with the result.

    Most of all, enjoy your journey!
     
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  12. munde53

    munde53 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2014 Minnesota

    This video may help:
     
  13. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    When I first began drinking craft I didn't like "bitter" beers. As I tried different styles I "learned" that beer didn't need to taste like bland AALs. With that my flavor preferences began to change. I went from not liking lagers that were too bitter to IPAs being my favorite style. Boston Lager and many ambers will introduce your palate to some mild bitterness. From there it is a short step to the often milder bitterness of pale ales. After that you may be ready for some Hopadillo - a nice Texas IPA.
     
  14. doktorhops

    doktorhops Pooh-Bah (2,065) Jan 12, 2011 Australia
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    You don't "train" a palate, you bombard it with an onslaught of hops.

    When the dust settles (and if your tongue hasn't required transplanting) you will have a greater appreciation of IPAs, DIPAs, etc...

    Repeat the same method to get in to sour Lambics.
     
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  15. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Top Notch pieces of Advice!
     
  16. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    Back when there were only 100 beers on the Beers of Fame I sought them out to expand my horizons. I also watched YouTube videos (Greg Beer Reveiws and Beer Geek Nation primarily) because I had/have a hard time describing some of the things I'm detecting.
     
  17. MacQ32

    MacQ32 Pooh-Bah (1,625) Mar 5, 2010 South Carolina
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    On my 21st I just bought a 6 pack of two mediaocre at best ipas (longhammer and harpoon). At first, it was a bit of a chore to put down, but by the end of the two 6 packs I was really enjoying them and became a hophead immediatly. I have grown quite a bit since then. Honestly, I just think you gotta put a few down, whether you enjoy it or not and then you acquire the taste (that's how it happened for me anyway)
     
  18. AntG21

    AntG21 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 Syria

    I recently turned 21, did a 12pk of Seirra Nevada Torpedo that night (or so I'm told). I think my palate is ready.
     
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  19. beerkim

    beerkim Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I had this thing going with a few of my friends to try a beer from each style of beer from the styles listing http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/

    Have some fun with it. Last one to try on my list is a braggot for which I am not in hurry to drink.

    Taking notes will be your best friend.
     
  20. thomda11

    thomda11 Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 California

    This. When I first started with craft beer, I would get a mixed 6-pack a week, but had no system of note-taking. Needless to say, I've tried a bunch of different beer and liked/disliked/loved a good many of them, but don't remember why.
     
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