Training your tasters. Tips?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by b-one, Apr 2, 2014.

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  1. b-one

    b-one Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 California

    I have a tasting crew at work for my creations. They are enthusiastic, but sophisticated in beer reviewing they mostly aren't. Not that I'm any great shakes, still have yet to write one of those great reviews here.
    Anyhow.
    I've provided links to the tips on the forum. A simplified tasting review sheet. I've made a basic malt taste profile chart (yet to be given to them). I did a spreadsheet of what was in my beers to accompany it. Holy crap, that one is too complex for a normal person to look at.
    I need to simplify, simplify so they can pick out the basic flavors. I mainly do porter/stouts/pouts and IPAs
    Suggestions?
     
  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Don't post gibberish.
     
  3. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    what are you trying to accomplish here? you admit that you aren't that good, but want to train others. To do what?To get them to feel the same way about your beer that you do? I don't see the point.

    ...I've got a tasting crew. "it's good man!" - that's what I get out of them.
    actual meaningful feedback is not something I try for from friends just happy to drink free beer.

    for that, I trained myself.
     
  4. b-one

    b-one Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 California

    Thanks for the helpful replies.
     
  5. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    OK, I'll just quote myself for emphasis here...
    are you trying to make them "sophisticated" beer reviewers?
     
  6. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

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  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    They say when you taste wine you should play with it. Smell it, look at it, smell it and taste it with others. Write reviews and compare.

    You should also go to the market and smell fruits, veggies, and taste them and think about what you are tasting. Think about it, smell, taste, smell, taste. You see a pattern here? The best way to develop your taste buds is to USE them. Use them and do it in a meaningful way that will help you pull flavors out of your beers.

    They also say your palate is freshest and sharpest in the morning. Hello KBS!
     
  8. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Perhaps purchase the fruit before this final step...just throwing that out there :wink:
     
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  9. b-one

    b-one Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 California

    Sorry. Bowling night last night.
    I didn't say I wasn't that good. I'm the very best at judging what I like. 60+ year old taste buds can't pick out some of the more subtle flavors anymore.
    I could go the altruistic route and say I'm trying to help them along in beer appreciation. Such a noble endeavor...
    A little bit true.
    Mostly I'd like some very basic flavor feedback. Too much caramel taste? Not bitter enough? I'm not expecting a lot of subtlety.
    When I get reviews of 'if I only had one beer to drink for the rest of my life', it's a nice ego boost, but tells me nothing about what set that one apart from the others. Certainly examining my recipes and comparing comments helps, but I'd like just a little more flesh on those bones. Everyone tastes things a little differently. What is absolutely too malty for me is perfect to one of my samplers.

    Ideally, I'd get them all together and have them taste a succession of brews in small amounts. Not practical in this case.
    I could go with the 'chew on this malt and...'. May still go that way with some of them.

    Certainly some of you have introduced a Bud drinker to the joys of craft beer. Same principle here.

    Goal? The perfect beer that will catapult me to international stardom. Isn't that every homebrewers dream?
     
  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    You've never been caught trying some grapes before buying 6 pounds? The bags are as big as potato sacks anymore.
     
  11. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Nah, it I can't eat anything without washing it first...that stuff gets sprayed with all kinds of crap!

    Granted, so does grain...but I try not to think about it.
     
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  12. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Yeah, but isn't mashing just like a long, really hot bath? Grain washed.
     
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  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Flawless logic, FTW.
     
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  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You have to be able to recognize the desired flavors along with defects.

    Some defects are in commercial beers.
    Skunky - light struck beer in Green bottles. Expose a green bottle to sunlight for a few hours.
    DMS - Rolling Rock
    Diacetyl - many Sam Smiths brews.
     
  15. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    A long hot bath where you drink throw away what you bathed and drink the bathwater.
     
  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    After it is boiled.
     
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