Trustee advice

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by DIM, May 13, 2014.

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  1. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    So fire34fighter and I are thinking of entering into an agreement where I would pick beer from the spring house barrel reserve society for him.

    I've been out of the trading loop for a couple of years, but I gather that this sort of relationship is common these days. Any advice? Unforseen circumstances you wish you had planned for? Thanks in advance for any help.

    Cheers, Dan
     
  2. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Generally the other party would pay for all the beers ahead of time, send you a shipper (so you don't need to deal with too much packing) and then sends you a shipping label. And probably he sends you a couple thank you beers for the effort .

    I'm doing it for someone now works for us.
     
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  3. fire34fighter

    fire34fighter Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2013 Virginia

    Interesting...So most people don't use paypal and I just pay him back for the shipping? Seems like a waste to send shipping stuff in order to have it sent back when you could just paypal them some $ to pay for stuff....Also what's the usual process for if a something breaks?
     
  4. TheBeerDrinker

    TheBeerDrinker Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Minnesota

    Order a shipper and have it sent to their place.
     
  5. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    the reason is that shipping is a PITA I would rather avoid. frankly I wouldn't trustee for someone if he asked me to individually bubble wrap 8 bottles or whatever. but being sent a shipper makes things very easy so I'm happy too help out.

    also I would rather be sent some cool beers I can't buy than be sent money to go buy my locals.
     
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  6. jono0101

    jono0101 Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 Missouri

    I recently was proxy for two guys for the BA Sump release, and both of them sent boxes with payment and thank you beers for doing the pickup for them. All I had to do was go pick up the bottles, repack the box, and send it back. It was really simple. The main thing is that the proxy is doing a favor by picking up the bottles and sending it back, so making it as easy as possible on them should be the goal. That includes the money for the bottles/shipping, a box to repack and send back, and some beer to say thank you, since the proxy really isn't getting anything else out of the transaction for going out of their way to pick up, pack, and ship a box for someone else.
     
  7. fire34fighter

    fire34fighter Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2013 Virginia

    Understood. I didn't think about having the shippers sent there. I already planned on sending thank you beers. Anybody have any experience when a bottle breaks?
     
  8. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    I proxy for a few folks and, personally, I find the idea of having shippers sent rather wasteful. They pay for the beer and shipping. I pack with whatever materials I have on hand, usually add a few extras. If there are other items that they want as part of a bigger trade, I negotiate that in. I send to them and they reply with a box. I don't worry about the packing materials figuring there will be packing materials as part of what comes back to me and that they'll take care of me with beers.

    If I didn't trust a person to do that, I wouldn't want to be a trustee for them. (Notice "trust" as the root of "trustee".) Similarly, if a couple dollars of packaging up front was a financial burden, I wouldn't be mailing out beer - period.
     
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  9. Hubarooski

    Hubarooski Initiate (0) May 15, 2013 Florida

    1. Obtain a shipper that is big enough to hold the society bottles
    2. Send Thank you box in said shipper
    3. Trustee fills shipper with your bottles
    4. Shipper is sent back to you with a label from your fedex account
    5. ???
    6. Profit
     
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  10. pest

    pest Savant (1,039) Sep 2, 2007 Ohio
    Trader

    You forgot PayPal cost of said society brews. But other than that, that's how pros do it. :wink:
     
  11. fire34fighter

    fire34fighter Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2013 Virginia

    Still looking for input on if something breaks.
     
  12. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't think anything should be expected if something breaks. You are taking the risk on of joining a society you are not local to and the risk of needing to have those bottles transported. If you want to be in total control of transportation of the bottles then you can make the trip to get them. Just one mans opinion, but I would be shocked if anyone would expect their trustee to make up for broken bottles in transit - I know I wouldn't.

    Edit - If breakage is due to poor packaging by trustee, then cut your losses and find someone else to trustee for you.
     
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  13. pest

    pest Savant (1,039) Sep 2, 2007 Ohio
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    I disagree. I don't view this any different than a normal trade where delivery is always the responsability of the shipper. I've always sent styro shippers in thus case to mitigate some if the shipping risk. This is something to discuss with the other party beforehand perhaps.
     
  14. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I feel it is very different than a normal trade.
     
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  15. prdstmnky

    prdstmnky Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2010 Vermont

    Agree 100%

    I would never ask someone to trustee for me if I didn't have past history with them, that I was confident everything would be packed properly in a timely manner. That person is doing me a HUGE favor, and should assume no responsibilities at all. Any issues with shipping would not be their fault, would simply be a product of the carriers fucking things up - it happens, and I certainly wouldn't put that on the trustee doing me a solid. It isn't like a trade, as said above.

    I mean, if the trustee is responsible for such things, then the truster(?) actually has zero responsibility in the transaction. Its no different than a gopickitupformebro. Ill gladly put in the leg work, certainly not gonna take responsibility if something beyond my control happens...thats the risk YOU take, and you should know that...and yes, I have been on both sides of such arrangements and accept such things on both ends.
     
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  16. pest

    pest Savant (1,039) Sep 2, 2007 Ohio
    Trader

    Donno. IMO your trading beer for the trustees time instead of his beer. And the 'truster' is responsible for all money, shipping, and generous thank you box for the hassle. But its cool I understand your opinion, we just have different views. Thus is also why I shy away from these sorts of transactions.
     
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