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Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Seatazzz, Feb 15, 2016.

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  1. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    A friend brews with beer kits, and the kits regularly include a package of S-05. Not only that, but Pilsen dry malt extract already includes Carapils. There are many "Kolsches" made with both S-05 and Carapils. They're certainly not true to style, but for a new homebrewer, they're adequate.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The inclusion of US-05 and Carapils-containing DME are both compromises designed to sell easy extract kits to brewers who don't know or care about authenticity. Doesn't make them Kolsch's.

    In the case of US-05, it's a concession to people who only use dry yeast. In the case of DME that contains carapils, it's a concession to the fact that they can't remove what's already in the DME.

    Just for yuck's, I went and had a look at Northern Brewer's extract Kolsch kit. The instructions tell you to pitch at 78F or lower. And no mention of cold conditioning/lagering. Bollocks kit, with very little to do with style or tradition.
     
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  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    It's surprising how far away from true styles these kits have progressed. I remember a couple of decades ago when I made beer from a can that was suppose to make a lager. The instructions said to ferment at room temperature, and there were no instructions about lagering it later at cool temperatures. So the kit tradition of making beers not true to style goes back a long way. Good thing for them that there are not any German purity laws here :slight_smile:
     
  4. Seatazzz

    Seatazzz Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2016 Washington

    Just so's ya know guys, this wasn't a kit. Just something I threw together at the LHBS with the help of one of the guys there. They usually try to push the Wyeast on me but my budget ain't stretching far enough for that, and I've had good luck so far with dry yeast. $8 for the Wyeast or $3 for 2 packets of dry, doesn't seem like much but I've got to watch the $$$. With the last two batches I've re-hydrated rather than just pitch it direct, and the fermenting seems to be going fairly well. I don't have the setup yet to make starters but hope to soon. I'm going to harvest the yeast off of my current batch and try that in a small batch all extract IPA I'm working on the recipe for. Might as well use my empty moonshine jars for something rather than collecting dust!
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have a growler, milk jug, or soda jug? And some aluminum foil? If so, you have the setup to make starters.
     
  6. Seatazzz

    Seatazzz Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2016 Washington

    Got growlers out the....well you get the picture. They are the amber ones, does that make a difference?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Colored glass will make it a little harder to see what's going on, but if that's what you have, I'd roll with it.
     
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