Unviolent fermentation...

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  1. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Ok it's been about 48 hours since I pitched my first yeast starter on a batch of IPA. I had about 200ml of yeast cake wyeast 1056 and pitched it too cold. That's on me. So now I have about 1/2 inch of krausen and it's "boiling" when usually I'm almost at blowoff tube status on a 5 gallon batch. I don't think I underpitched and I oxygenated it extremely well. So far this is the weakest fermentation thus far...could have been the temperature change that stressed the yeast? Any input?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Could be, but maybe not. I have cold pitched (~38F yeast into ~65F wort) before, with no ill effects that I could detect.
     
  3. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Strike that...I had about 40-50ml of slurry from a 1 liter starter. My bad
     
  4. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    What temp did u pitch at and what temp are you fermenting at
     
  5. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    The wort was in the low 50s F and yeast was at room temp about 66F. I had a digital thermometer hiccup. I was wondering why it took so long to cool. By the time I added the water to get the word to 5 gallons it was in the high 40s. My tap water gets COLD COLD in winter. I'm just assuming it stalled a bit. Seems to be going well but not gangbusters like I'm used to.
     
  6. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Everything is at 67F now and has probably been that way for 36 hours.
     
  7. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I wouldn't worry. First, it sounds like a vigorous enough fermentation. Second, there are a lot of variables that affect how a fermentation looks that have nothing to do with its actual health. (To give an example not pertinent to you, for my goses and Berliners I sometimes pitch Lactobacillus a day ahead of pitching yeast. Because the Lacto breaks down proteins in the wort to the detriment of foam formation, the fermentation is often visually unimpressive, forming essentially no krausen. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.)
     
  8. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Speaking of proteins, I did add whirlfloc for the first time in my 2 year brewing career and I know that pulls down proteins to the bottom for clarity? Could that be it? As long as I hit my target gravity this is a non issue of course.
     
  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Leave them be, and let them finish. The worst that'll happen is they will take longer to hit FG. I'd be far more worried about pitching a yeast like 1056 too warm, than I would over pitching them cold.
     
  10. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Oh no doubt. I'm probably going to give it an extra few days before I rack into secondary. And I definitely know it's better to pitch on the cooler side with this strain. Not making a hefeweizen here!!! Haha I just like to get as much information as I can. I know it's fine but I like to get ahead of things. Thanks
     
  11. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Cool. It's an IPA. I don't see the point, or value in racking to secondary with that style. But, if it makes you happy. Carry on.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I see value in it, depending on the setup. I closed-transfer from a conical (primary) to a purged, hop cage containing corny (secondary), to minimize O2 pickup. After a few days, I do another closed transfer to another corny for carbonation and serving.
     
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  13. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    I usually don't. I have another lid for my carboy with a mesh screen attachment for dry hopping. I need to do some yeast washing and in my experience the best yeast is on the bottom of the primary fermentor. I'm also doing a clarity experiment with my whirlfloc.
     
  14. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I was about to post this exact thing. My berliners are always like this – airlock activity, yet nothing but tiny bubbles running along the side of the fermenter.

    @hojo813 As long as you're getting airlock activity, then let it do it's thing at 67F. I think the yeast just got off to a slow start if you said it was in the high 40s/low 50s when you pitched.
     
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  15. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    This, as well as the colder start, could also be your reason for only 1/2 inch of krausen, rather than 'gangbusters'!
     
  16. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    With this kind of transfer and into a fully purged bright, absolutely there's value in it.
     
  17. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Finally a straight answer. Thank you!!!!
     
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  18. frozyn

    frozyn Maven (1,435) May 16, 2015 New York
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    If you use any Fermcap to prevent boil-overs, that can keep things pretty muted as well in terms of the krausen.
     
  19. hojo813

    hojo813 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2018 Virginia

    Never used fermcap. Never had the need
     
  20. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    Pop the top and take a big sniff. If it burns your brain then there’s a healthy layer of CO2. Replace the lid quickly and walk away with your mind at ease.

    RDWHAHB :slight_smile:
     
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