Upload Images seems to have become impossible

Help Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Thomas_Wikman, Jan 7, 2019.

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  1. Thomas_Wikman

    Thomas_Wikman Pooh-Bah (2,323) Jan 8, 2016 Texas
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    I am just trying to be helpful when uploading images of beer labels/bottles etc. The problem is that this has now become virtually impossible. The two recommended sites http://www.resizeyourimage.com and http://www.picresize.com no longer work and the previously suggested beta site http://beta.resizeyourimage.com/EN/ has stopped working as well. So I tried using other tools....but even though it easy to crop and resize images to exactly 300 X 150 pixels using other tools I can typically not get them below the 20.5 KB requirement at the same time. No one expects you to be able to do that. I typically get between 20+ and 70KB and I cannot get it lower without going below 300 X 150 pixels (which I am not allowed to) using any of the tools I have tried.

    So in summary it seems it is now very difficult to be helpful by adding pictures.

    I am wondering does anyone know of any tool out there that you can use to get the image to be exactly 300 X 150 pixels PLUS below 20.5KB? The last part is difficult if you adhere to the first part.

    Or alternatively maybe this web-site can make the upload photo requirements a little bit more reasonable? Suggestion 2 X 1 ratio and below 20.5KB, or alternatively exactly 300 X 150 and allow up to 60KB.
     
  2. Thomas_Wikman

    Thomas_Wikman Pooh-Bah (2,323) Jan 8, 2016 Texas
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    I should add that right after posting this I was able to upload a picture by cropping/resizing my image to 300 X 150 by using an old Microsoft tool called Microsoft Digital Image Standard. However, it was too large, 25KB, so I used another standard Microsoft tool called Paint to save it as a 24-bit bitmap and then using the same tool to save back as a jpg. This reduced the size from 25KB to 16KB while retaining the size of 300 X 150 pixels. So I was basically destroying information without making the picture look bad. However, that's not a reasonable way of doing it.

    So yeah I open for any suggestions
     
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  3. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I ran into this when changing avatar photos. My best advice would be to under size your image at 250 X 125 or something that works with the size limit.
     
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  4. Thomas_Wikman

    Thomas_Wikman Pooh-Bah (2,323) Jan 8, 2016 Texas
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    Yes, good suggestion, thank you, but I tried that already, and they reject anything that is not exactly 300X150.

    That's why I tried destroying information while keeping 300X150 exactly (without going drastic like black and white or 16-bit colors).

    I should add that after I posted I found out that the first web-site work if loaded in the Google Chrome browser.

    But it shouldn't be this hard.
     
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  5. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    ResizeYourImage still seems to work for me -- maybe it does depend on the browser, though, since I'm also using Chrome (and the main reason I switched was because a few sites were not working right on Firefox anymore.)

    But yeah, never use Paint for these sorts of things. In my experience it always makes the file much bigger than it needs to be for its size and format, and if you try to save in lower color depths it ruins almost everything.
     
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  6. LiquidAmber

    LiquidAmber Grand Pooh-Bah (5,734) Feb 20, 2009 Washington
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    ResizeYourImage is working for me too. I use Firefox. I uploaded 10-20 photos in the last few weeks. The results seem light saturated and a little blurry, but that may be an artifact of reducing the image by so much. But the webpage works quite nicely and is easy to use once you get familiar with it.
     
  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I use the free PhotoScape for all of my Windows image editing, including resizing and reducing the quality to get smaller files. After doing one or two it becomes pretty easy. I take an image of a can/bottle, set crop ratio to 2:1, frame the can/bottle in a rectangle, crop it, reduce image to 300 pixels on the longest side (reducing the other dimension to 150), then reduce the jpeg quality to reduce the image size during saving. Takes longer to describe that process than do it. Takes me about 15 seconds.

    I also use PhotoScape to prep my pictures for NBS, WBAYDN, and Beer Haul forums. Here is a link to download;

    https://en.softonic.com/download/photoscape/windows/redirect-post-download
     
  8. Thomas_Wikman

    Thomas_Wikman Pooh-Bah (2,323) Jan 8, 2016 Texas
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    Thank you for all suggestions. I should say that I got http://www.resizeyourimage.com working with google chrome, so I have something. I'll try PhotoScape if that stops working.
     
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  9. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I also use resizeyourimage.com - never had an issue with them.

    I should add, Im using it on Safari 12.0.02.
     
  10. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I always use MS Paint to resize my pics to the correct dimensions, and many times this results in a byte size under the 20 Kb requirement. (I mostly submit pics of places if that makes any difference.) If the 20 Kb is not met, I'll use https://bulkresizephotos.com/ which always seems to reduce the bytes anywhere from 75% to 95% somehow. You can drag/drop on your pc any number of pics and they are resized instantly. Then it's a simple download to get the revised pics back to your pc. I don't notice and loss of image quality, but it's hard to tell minor changes on pics that are that small.
     
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  11. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    I often resize images on my phone which has better software for smaller images (because of instagram and other mobile platforms where smaller image data is ideal) and just send it to myself on facebook messenger or email. I know this is cumbersome as these things are but should you find yourself in a bind in the future this may help you out in the long run. Glad you seem to have it sorted out though, just wanted to add my 2 cents.
     
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  12. Wasatch

    Wasatch Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,062) Jun 8, 2005 Colorado
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    BA should automatically do it, but it does not.:rolling_eyes::confused:

    Cheers!
     
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  13. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I use bulk all the time after cropping my pics on my mobile. It's pretty hard to beat.
     
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  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Having BA lower the jpeg quality to get the size down would work, but I wouldn't trust automatic cropping. I alerted a hotel once that the image of their sign that they uploaded to Facebook was cropped automatically, turning the name of the hotel "interesting" by cropping the "C" off "Canal". Using automated crop may work good for scenery, but for beer labels you'd want the whole thing and automated cropping could easily truncate.
     
  15. Bouleboubier

    Bouleboubier Grand Pooh-Bah (3,433) Dec 22, 2006 New Jersey
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    I've been using GIMP for years.

    STEPS:

    Under Image, select Scale Image
    Resize the image pixel size and resolution (to 72).
    Under Filters -> Enhance -> Sharpen
    Under File, select Export As.
    Rename the file (with .jpg), click Export; adjustments window will open
    Check 'Show preview in image window'
    Move the Quality slider (if need be) to make File Size 20.4 kB or below
    Click Export

    NOTE: on occasion a 20.4 kB size will not end up working for upload - so, if it doesn't, redo the image at 20.3 kB or below and that will work every time ... btw, not sure if there's a reliable app for GIMP ... https://www.gimp.org/
     
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  16. scream

    scream Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
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    I don't post many pics at all but never have a problem loading them into imgur and then copying the link ???
     
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  17. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    That works well enough for the forums, but this thread is about uploading pictures to the database, which is a bit more complicated unfortunately, because these pictures need to exactly meet a certain pixel and file size.
     
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  18. scream

    scream Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Your post is the 1st in the thread to mention database
     
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  19. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    The OP was asking about uploading pictures of places/beer labels which is done differently than uploading pictures to post in the forums.
     
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