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Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by sts9fan, Sep 7, 2017.
Anyone got a good online source? Anyone ever had luck calling a distributor? I'm looking for a few.
Contact a brewery and see if they have any decommissioned. Damage makes some kegs unfit for use.
Distributors don't own the kegs, so they don't sell them. The brewery owns the keg and they don't have any interest in selling either. If you see one on for sale on craigslist rest assured it is not a legal sale. In rare instances a used keg becomes available because it has been abandoned at a bar or retail. But that is not typical, and you should get a note on letterhead stating the same. Otherwise you are buying stolen property. Ask at the bar where you have a good relationship and they may have an abandoned keg sitting around for some cash.
Sabco is a supplier. Kegco too.
If you don't have experience and the proper tools to take apart, clean and maintain a Sanke keg it is not a DIY job. Obtaining a spear removal tool will be much more difficult. It is not typically sold retail. Also, it's called a spear for a reason.
Keg valve removal tool: https://www.brewmagic.com/products/keg-valve-removal-press-d-system-american/
billandsuz is right about everything else. If you need a keg and you're not going to cut it up to make a kettle just buy one, drink it, and never return it for the deposit (please buy a mass produced beer, and not one from your local small brewery).
But that's stealing!!!!!!!!!
Even after all these years the net is predictable and ridiculous.
A few kegs of BL it is!!
Every homebrew store sells sanke valve removal tools. Thanks for the spear warning. Should I not touch the pointy side of a knife?
There is no pointy side. Do you know why dismantling a keg can be dangerous?
Nobody has ever been injured maintaining a sanke, least of all someone who has never actually maintained a keg. So best of luck.
If your LHBS is selling keg maintenance tools, aren't they selling kegs too? Why are you asking?Sounds funny to me.
To be fair.... to depressurize the keg you just need a flat head screw driver and I removed the spear containement ring with a pair of pliers. Took me 15 minutes total on my first try and I'm not an overly handy guy. I use it for fermenting and it was a decommissioned bud light keg. If OP wanted to top off he could take it to a metal working shop and have it taken off with a plasma cutter for not too much cost.
Oh I also got sprayed in the face with 3-5 year old budlight that smelled like a mixture of horse shit and human urine. Always have the keg on its side and don't stand anywhere near it.
Just be careful. You can purge with a flathead no problem and I have taken the top off of many with an angle grinder, although I don't suggest that unless you are confident in your use of that tool. Easily could end up being a bad day. Plasma cut job for a quick $20 would be a much better solution. Any of those fabrication shops along the road should do it for you.
Found a dude looking to get rid of two! Free99. What do you think 12 year old bud light smells like?
Spear of the D style keg came out super easy. The other was a S. That thing tried to break my spirt but I prevailed.
If you want to do it right, and not trash your keg or the retaining ring.
The above mentioned Sabco spear removal, and also two spear knives is the best way to do it.
Pro-tip. The more impatient you get with the knives getting under the retaining ring operates directly in proportion to your increasing the risk of injury, and stabbing yourself, or shearing your yourself in the spear remover.
THose things are sharp, and you have a handful of angles that work really well that also happen to work really well for stabbing yourself.
GW kent has really nice spear removal tool, but it's $350. Unlike the one listed on Brewmagic, the one on GW Kent has rounded edges and won't eff your hands up.
No different than renting a car from Hertz and just not returning it, I suppose. The only difference is Hertz didn't trust you enough to not ask for ID. Keeping a keg is stealing, plain and simple. The brewery was kind enough to let you borrow it and they trusted you to return it when you were done with it. Don't abuse that privilege.
just my $.02
You're in MA, so this may be possible - I have a 1/2 bbl Budweiser sanke keg that I'm looking to get rid of (originally acquired it to build a keggle out of, but ended up not using it). If you come pick it up it's yours for free. Message me if you want the address.
Exactly. For those who think it's okay, why settle for a keg? How about that awesome Blichmann kettle at the LHBS? Just go in there when there's nobody around and take it!
I now have a small rectangle wound on my wrist that promises to become a scar from a spear knife incident. Getting under a sealing ring when it is older, and bent takes considerable effort, and this was the one that rewarded me with a puncture.
Careful, or Blichmann will start booby trapping those display models. That guy will come up with something ingenious, too. It will make that spear look like Stone Age weaponry.
You guys are very dramatic ...
Both got 3 hours on my diy keg washer with warm PBW. Both are crystal clean and no sign of 12 year old beer.
I had no need to keep them intact. They have a new job. A few screwdrivers are all that was needed.
How much did you pay for that fermentation set up? Care to share the link?
Tower of power
$85 for a 13 gallon SS fermenter that you can pressure transfer. Not too shabby!
Congrats. You got a steal.
I see what you did there
Yeah. Funny except they were. Obtained legally! Ethics police stand down!
"Found a dude looking to get rid of two!"
How did this dude obtain them?
You know what they say about assuming?
Don't be a tease. If you know that your kegs have legal provenance, explain. If you don't know, own up to your doubts and question your own assumption.
That set up from Brewershardware is attractive, and tempting.
Oh, you win. Happy?
You talk about spear removal like an expert. Know everything about keg maintenance. Clearly you have a legal way of obtaining other peoples property. And you are not abusing the brewing community.
Feel free to add anything I missed.
If you buy one you will be branded thief. So basically everyone using a keggle is "abusing the brewing community"?
Yes I know how to clean a spear removed keg. Not rocket problems.
No I am not an expert in spear removal. Yes I safely removed two in 20min.
You dudes are so odd.
There are legit ways, as I suggested earlier. Contacting a brewery is one, as they will have some ready for disposal now and then.
My keggles were purchased back when I had no time, but some money. They were retired kegs. I have found where each was damaged, then repaired for use as a keggle.
Couple of tips on using kegs for kettles.
If you want a keg, but don't want to steal it, look for kegs from closed breweries. I've seen lots of these floating around bars, distributors, and I'd imagine scrapyards and garages, because they really have nowhere to go. I've got one from a brewery that's been closed for 10 years.
My first kettle was a Heineken keg that worked great for 20 or so batches...then it started leaking. These things are made to hold extreme pressures and extreme heat, but they are not built to have an open flame on them for hours on end. They might not fail, but don't be surprised if they do. Also, many modern kegs have a half-circle 'gash' on the bottom. This is an emergency PRV to prevent an explosion. The metal is very thin there and I'm not sure how well it would hold up to brewing. Something to keep in mind.
Honestly, you can get a 15 gallon stainless pot with a lid for 80 bucks on amazon. I would just go with that.
This is ridiculous. Look, you're in receipt of stolen property. YOU get the lecture. You don't get to lecture us. Just admit it. Hope that it's not a felony in your state. You go to jail, but it's worth the risk for criminal minds. And you have advertised your criminal activity on the internet, so we also know you ain't too sharp neither.
I have keggles. As others have pointed out. You can buy a keg. You can pick them up if they become abandoned and you make an attempt to return the property but are unsuccessful. You chose not to. Don't be surprised if you are branded a thief. Remember, you are a thief. A crook. You. Who is the odd one here? The community who answered your questions or the dude who tries to rationalize his criminal behavior.
You are not an honorable person. Now we all know it. Anyway, good luck. Don't hurt yourself.