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  1. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Anyone got a good online source? Anyone ever had luck calling a distributor? I'm looking for a few.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,305) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Contact a brewery and see if they have any decommissioned. Damage makes some kegs unfit for use.
     
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  3. billandsuz

    billandsuz Disciple (310) Sep 1, 2004 New York

    Distributors don't own the kegs, so they don't sell them. The brewery owns the keg and they don't have any interest in selling either. If you see one on for sale on craigslist rest assured it is not a legal sale. In rare instances a used keg becomes available because it has been abandoned at a bar or retail. But that is not typical, and you should get a note on letterhead stating the same. Otherwise you are buying stolen property. Ask at the bar where you have a good relationship and they may have an abandoned keg sitting around for some cash.

    Sabco is a supplier. Kegco too.

    If you don't have experience and the proper tools to take apart, clean and maintain a Sanke keg it is not a DIY job. Obtaining a spear removal tool will be much more difficult. It is not typically sold retail. Also, it's called a spear for a reason.

    Cheers.
     
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  4. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Poo-Bah (8,946) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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  5. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    But that's stealing!!!!!!!!!
    Even after all these years the net is predictable and ridiculous.
    A few kegs of BL it is!!
     
  6. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Every homebrew store sells sanke valve removal tools. Thanks for the spear warning. Should I not touch the pointy side of a knife?
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Disciple (310) Sep 1, 2004 New York

    There is no pointy side. Do you know why dismantling a keg can be dangerous?
    Nobody has ever been injured maintaining a sanke, least of all someone who has never actually maintained a keg. So best of luck.

    If your LHBS is selling keg maintenance tools, aren't they selling kegs too? Why are you asking?Sounds funny to me.
     
  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Initiate (187) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    To be fair.... to depressurize the keg you just need a flat head screw driver and I removed the spear containement ring with a pair of pliers. Took me 15 minutes total on my first try and I'm not an overly handy guy. I use it for fermenting and it was a decommissioned bud light keg. If OP wanted to top off he could take it to a metal working shop and have it taken off with a plasma cutter for not too much cost.
     
  9. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Initiate (187) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Oh I also got sprayed in the face with 3-5 year old budlight that smelled like a mixture of horse shit and human urine. Always have the keg on its side and don't stand anywhere near it.
     
  10. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (159) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio
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    Just be careful. You can purge with a flathead no problem and I have taken the top off of many with an angle grinder, although I don't suggest that unless you are confident in your use of that tool. Easily could end up being a bad day. Plasma cut job for a quick $20 would be a much better solution. Any of those fabrication shops along the road should do it for you.
     
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  11. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Found a dude looking to get rid of two! Free99. What do you think 12 year old bud light smells like?
     
  12. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Spear of the D style keg came out super easy. The other was a S. That thing tried to break my spirt but I prevailed.
     
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  13. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Zealot (506) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois

    If you want to do it right, and not trash your keg or the retaining ring.
    The above mentioned Sabco spear removal, and also two spear knives is the best way to do it.
    Pro-tip. The more impatient you get with the knives getting under the retaining ring operates directly in proportion to your increasing the risk of injury, and stabbing yourself, or shearing your yourself in the spear remover.
    THose things are sharp, and you have a handful of angles that work really well that also happen to work really well for stabbing yourself.
    https://www.gwkent.com/keg-spear-re...tCMjWoad9Xq1hVZ1-EEZNDha6qLMOYqYaAgWNEALw_wcB
    GW kent has really nice spear removal tool, but it's $350. Unlike the one listed on Brewmagic, the one on GW Kent has rounded edges and won't eff your hands up.
     
  14. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Aspirant (297) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    No different than renting a car from Hertz and just not returning it, I suppose. The only difference is Hertz didn't trust you enough to not ask for ID. Keeping a keg is stealing, plain and simple. The brewery was kind enough to let you borrow it and they trusted you to return it when you were done with it. Don't abuse that privilege.

    just my $.02
     
  15. BeerMaverick

    BeerMaverick Initiate (173) Dec 14, 2010 Massachusetts
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    You're in MA, so this may be possible - I have a 1/2 bbl Budweiser sanke keg that I'm looking to get rid of (originally acquired it to build a keggle out of, but ended up not using it). If you come pick it up it's yours for free. Message me if you want the address.
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,343) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Exactly. For those who think it's okay, why settle for a keg? How about that awesome Blichmann kettle at the LHBS? Just go in there when there's nobody around and take it!
     
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  17. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Zealot (506) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois

    I now have a small rectangle wound on my wrist that promises to become a scar from a spear knife incident. Getting under a sealing ring when it is older, and bent takes considerable effort, and this was the one that rewarded me with a puncture.
     
  18. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,609) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Careful, or Blichmann will start booby trapping those display models. That guy will come up with something ingenious, too. It will make that spear look like Stone Age weaponry.
     
  19. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    You guys are very dramatic ...
    Results

    Both got 3 hours on my diy keg washer with warm PBW. Both are crystal clean and no sign of 12 year old beer.
    I had no need to keep them intact. They have a new job. A few screwdrivers are all that was needed.
     
  20. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Initiate (187) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    How much did you pay for that fermentation set up? Care to share the link?
     
  21. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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  22. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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  23. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,343) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Congrats. You got a steal.
     
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  24. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Initiate (187) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I see what you did there :wink:
     
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  25. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Yeah. Funny except they were. Obtained legally! Ethics police stand down!
     
  26. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,343) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    "Found a dude looking to get rid of two!"

    How did this dude obtain them?
     
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  27. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    You know what they say about assuming?
     
  28. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,609) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Don't be a tease. If you know that your kegs have legal provenance, explain. If you don't know, own up to your doubts and question your own assumption.
     
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  29. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,305) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    That set up from Brewershardware is attractive, and tempting.
     
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  30. billandsuz

    billandsuz Disciple (310) Sep 1, 2004 New York

    Oh, you win. Happy?

    You talk about spear removal like an expert. Know everything about keg maintenance. Clearly you have a legal way of obtaining other peoples property. And you are not abusing the brewing community.
    Feel free to add anything I missed.
    Winner!
    But, karma.
     
  31. sts9fan

    sts9fan Initiate (64) Mar 7, 2015 Massachusetts
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    If you buy one you will be branded thief. So basically everyone using a keggle is "abusing the brewing community"?
    Yes I know how to clean a spear removed keg. Not rocket problems.
    No I am not an expert in spear removal. Yes I safely removed two in 20min.
    You dudes are so odd.
     
  32. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,305) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    There are legit ways, as I suggested earlier. Contacting a brewery is one, as they will have some ready for disposal now and then.

    My keggles were purchased back when I had no time, but some money. They were retired kegs. I have found where each was damaged, then repaired for use as a keggle.
     
  33. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Crusader (760) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Couple of tips on using kegs for kettles.
    If you want a keg, but don't want to steal it, look for kegs from closed breweries. I've seen lots of these floating around bars, distributors, and I'd imagine scrapyards and garages, because they really have nowhere to go. I've got one from a brewery that's been closed for 10 years.
    My first kettle was a Heineken keg that worked great for 20 or so batches...then it started leaking. These things are made to hold extreme pressures and extreme heat, but they are not built to have an open flame on them for hours on end. They might not fail, but don't be surprised if they do. Also, many modern kegs have a half-circle 'gash' on the bottom. This is an emergency PRV to prevent an explosion. The metal is very thin there and I'm not sure how well it would hold up to brewing. Something to keep in mind.
    Honestly, you can get a 15 gallon stainless pot with a lid for 80 bucks on amazon. I would just go with that.
     
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  34. billandsuz

    billandsuz Disciple (310) Sep 1, 2004 New York

    This is ridiculous. Look, you're in receipt of stolen property. YOU get the lecture. You don't get to lecture us. Just admit it. Hope that it's not a felony in your state. You go to jail, but it's worth the risk for criminal minds. And you have advertised your criminal activity on the internet, so we also know you ain't too sharp neither.

    I have keggles. As others have pointed out. You can buy a keg. You can pick them up if they become abandoned and you make an attempt to return the property but are unsuccessful. You chose not to. Don't be surprised if you are branded a thief. Remember, you are a thief. A crook. You. Who is the odd one here? The community who answered your questions or the dude who tries to rationalize his criminal behavior.

    You are not an honorable person. Now we all know it. Anyway, good luck. Don't hurt yourself.
     
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