Using cocoa in brewing

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  1. LittleCreature

    LittleCreature Initiate (0) May 2, 2007 Australia

    I have plans to brew a chocolate robust porter, but I am uncertain about using cocoa powder due to its fat content. All the cocoa powders I've seen have around 10-20% fat and I'm worried that this will result in a beer with zero head retention. Is bad head retention simply a fact that I will have to accept when brewing a chocolate beer, or is there a way around this?
     
  2. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Pundit (944) Nov 30, 2011 Canada (ON)

    What a perfectly timed question. I made a chocolate stout from a pre-mixed all grain kit and it said to add a bit of cocoa before putting it into the fermentor. I tried the first on tonight, and it was exactly how you described, zero head retention. The foam disappeared almost immediatly after I finished pouring. If it is because of the fat content it is nice to have a bit better explination, because I was wondering where I messed up.
     
  3. itsjustzach

    itsjustzach Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2006 Ohio

    I've used Hersheys baking cocoa powder at the end of the boil several times without negatively affecting head retention. I'm not sure what the fat content is, but I think most cocoa powder for baking would be low to none. I think I used about 8 oz in the last 5 mintes of the boil each time.
     
  4. Jtc2811

    Jtc2811 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 California

    With cocoa powder you may want to boil for 15 or more and use plenty of character malts. I generally use a little more Carmel malts when I use cocoa powder, and it offsets head retention issues nicely. Also unless you strain or filter be prepared for a ton of trunk loss. Consider forgoing powder and just use roasted cocoa nibs.
     
  5. LittleCreature

    LittleCreature Initiate (0) May 2, 2007 Australia

    Thanks for the advice, people. I've heard that Hershey's is a good brand to use as it is lower in fat than most. A 100% pure, unsweetened cocoa powder - that is cocoa powder for baking - typically has around 10-20% fat content. I've gone with the lowest fat cocoa powder I could find, which is Nestle at 10% fat.

    I'm interested why the 15 minute comment, the recipe my beer is based around from Brewing Classic Styles suggests adding the cocoa in the last minute of the boil.

    My recipe is:

    Target OG: 1.061
    Target FG: 1.018
    IBU: 33

    Base Malt:
    52% Light DME

    Mini-Mash:
    15% Munich
    10% Crystal 80L
    10% Crystal 40L
    8% Pale Chocolate Malt
    5% Roasted Barley

    Hops:
    EKG to 33IBU all at 60 mins

    Other:
    200g Nestle Baking Cocoa at 1 min
    50mL Vanilla Extract at bottling

    Yeast:
    Wyeast 1056 (pitching onto the yeast cake from a Scottish 70/-)
     
  6. Jtc2811

    Jtc2811 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 California

    You might need some 2 row in the mash for better conversion - what's the diastatic power of Munich?
     
  7. LittleCreature

    LittleCreature Initiate (0) May 2, 2007 Australia

    No idea! Will look into that.
     
  8. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    Munich can convert itself, that's about as much power as it has.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The DP for Munich varies, depending on the maltster, and on the various colors within the same maltster. In some cases, it's not published. Any time I use any type of Munich, I take that into consideration.
     
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