Using Corny Keg & Beer Gun as Bottle Bucket

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  1. MorningDew72

    MorningDew72 Crusader (402) Aug 15, 2014 North Carolina
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    I have an extra unused corny keg and want to use it as a bottling tank for a bottle conditioned beer. Ideas on how to best mix sugar/water solution with the beer coming into the keg? My thoughts are to approach it exactly as I have when using a bottling bucket...pour sugar water in before racking, and the racking will mix all the sugars in relatively proportionally. Nothing else to do.

    Going to use a beer gun to bottle straight from the keg after racking. Mixed fermentation beer that has already seen enough oxygen from numerous months fermenting so I want to try and minimize any additional exposure.
     
  2. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Racking this beer into a keg and then bottle filling is only going to increase oxidation.
    Less handled beer is less oxidized beer. You might want to try it with another brew.

    Racking on to your priming solution would be the best way to mix the solution into the beer. That would be my method. Purge with CO2. You have it, may as well use it.


    Cheers
     
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  3. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I've done this, and there's a couple of problems:

    If you're talking 5'ish gallons you'll have a non-homogenous mix of the sugar/beer unless you stir frequently. With a bucket this is easy and something as simple as a few swipes of a stir spoon or bottling wand. In a keg the only way to stir is to shake it. But...insert problem here...for the beer to flow to the gun you have a head of pressure. Each time you shake you are exposing more of the beer's surface area to CO2 under pressure which can lead to over-carbonating. Essentially this is a quick-carb technique.

    In my case I did exactly as described above and the first bottles were 750s which ended up carb'ed okay. The next set were some 500s which over-carb'ed. The last bottling was 350s which were really over-carb'ed. Yep, repeated shaking under pressure added extra CO2 to the last batch which I only figured out because I was doing different size bottles.

    Failure to stir may result in sugar settling and leaving the last batch of bottles under-carb'ed. Your basic rock/hard-spot dilemma. I suppose you could vent between shakes but that'll be a PITA. The mechanics of the process did work okay, but I won't be doing this again.
     
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  4. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I only rack on top of the sugar solution if I've boiled it with an adequate amount of water so that it is a thin solution so it dissipates more easily. My amount of water is determined by how much my beer is short of the recipe amount (and I'm always short by some amount of beer by design).

    If the beer doesn't need much catch-up water, I'll boil the sugar in as small an amount as I can and then stir the syrup in when adding it.

    Regardless of which way the sugar gets added, I'll still stir the beer 4-5 times during bottling with an easy/smooth bottom-to-top stroke to bring that heavy sugar back to the top.
     
  5. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Zealot (691) Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    Could you keg condition (naturally) then bottle?
     
  6. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I bottle from a keg and it works well. Purge keg, add beer and sugar and bottle with a bottling wand jammed in a picnic tap. I add the priming sugar solution when the keg is about 1/3 full and agitate gently. Have never had carbonation issues except with a couple of old Orval bottles I failed to sanitize sufficiently...
     
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