Using RO water with no additives

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  1. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Should I get something with a built in pH meter or should I buy an individual pH meter? I'd like something reliable and accurate. I was thinking around $65-80.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Some like this one.
    http://www.thermoworks.com/High-Accuracy-pH-Meter-8689
    You need calibration, cleaning, and storage solutions also.

    I don't know of any TDS pH combinations, so I can't recommend one.
     
  3. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I am under the impression that the TDS meters only indicate that some solids are present, and not what those solids are. So this could only be used to tell you if you have hard-ish water, or soft water and nothing else. Am I correct?
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's right. But it's not just that there are "some" solids. They do tell you the amount. (But not the types.)
     
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    It only tells you the total Disolved ion content in ppm. It could be hardness (Ca and Mg), alkalinity (HCO3), flavor ions (Na, Cl, SO4), and most likely some combination of all the above. You could disolve table salt in distilled water and have a high TDS, and the water would not be hard.

    For a water supply the TDS is an indicator of something changeing in the supply.
     
  6. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I guess I'll have to find a pH meter that will allow for higher temperature.
     
  7. 1beerbaron

    1beerbaron Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 Ohio

    You should measure mash pH after cooling. You cannot predict reliably what the change in pH will be due to temperature because the super variable nature of the buffers, acids, and bases in the wort
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You shouldn't measure mash pH at mash temps. It will destroy the electrode. Maybe there's a design out there somewhere that will last a long time at high temps, but I'm not aware of one.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The pH probes will fail fast at higher temps. The quoted range for the mash 5.2-5.6 is at room temperature measurements.
     
  10. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Ok, I was wondering why one would want such a thing then, other than to quality check RO water.
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You can use it to get some assurance that your already known water profile probably hasn't changed since it was analyzed.
     
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  12. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    "probably" :slight_smile: It's a cheap way to be fairly sure.
     
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