Using the Word "Try" at a Bar

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  1. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,721) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    This has been bugging me for a while but had an incident yesterday that made me feel the need to post a thread about it so I can make a small attempt to get a lot of us on the same page regarding the use of the word "try" when communicating with a bartender.

    So I've lived in NC for a year now. Lived in quite a few other places before here (New Orleans, Miami, Sarasota and Delaware) and everywhere else I've been before here, when people have said "I'll try (insert beer name)," half the time they've meant "Can I get a taste of (insert beer name)." And even if they meant to get a full pour, no big deal. Easier to add to the glass than to take away. When they put it in the form of a question "Can I try (insert beer name)" then they almost always want just a taster. Then I move here. I start getting confused because people will say "Can I try (insert beer name)" and I hand them a taste and they're like "Oh, I wanted a full pour." Not just with the locals but tourists too. Happened to me at least ten times before I finally was like "OK, I guess the word 'try' means 'have' here." And so far, in the past 6 months I've been practicing this, it's generally been working out fine...until yesterday. Dude says "I'll try the Cack-a-Lacky." I start pouring a full pint and he's like "No, I meant just a little taste."

    People, if you want a taste, call it a taste or a taster. And, if you want a full pour, use the word "have." The word "try" has become so vague. One of my fellow bartenders at my first bartending job here got to the point of saying "Try it or buy it?" but I feel like that's kind of rude. Now obviously tone of voice factors in to this because when someone phrases it as a question "Can I try (insert beer name)" and they use a higher pitch in their voice I obviously can tell they just want a taste. But from now on, when someone says "Lemme try (insert beer name)" I'm forced to ask "Half pour? Full Pour?" because I no longer have any idea what they mean. I'm not about to just automatically give them a taste because that's a waste of a taster glass and I'm definitely not about to start automatically pouring a full one because, if they just wanted a taste, that's a waste of beer and costs the establishment I work for money.

    It's gone from pet peeve status to legitimate issue and I've never had this problem anywhere else until now. May seem nitpicky but communication is key when you're ordering at a bar especially if it's busy and I'm just sick of wasting beer. Me personally, I never use that word. I say "I'll have (insert beer name)" or "I'll do the (insert beer name)." What do you think? Can other bartenders/servers sympathize with me or do you think I'm insane for obsessing over this terminology?

    TL;dr The term "try" is too vague when dealing with ordering beers. Please use the words "taste," "taster," or "have." Thank you.
     
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  2. msscott1973

    msscott1973 Pooh-Bah (1,727) Dec 28, 2013 North Carolina
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    I usually use the word "sample" if I explicitly want just a taste (mainly because I was following the example of others). There never has been any confusion with that term.
     
  3. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    "Mind if a get a little taste?" is what I always ask.

    But yeah I have had bartenders pour me full pints when I say "Can I try that?"
     
  4. OldRickSputin

    OldRickSputin Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Illinois

    They let you do it with ice cream, so WTF!
     
  5. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    OP, sounds like you're a server and thus in the service industry. I'd say the burden is on you to clarify. Just the reality of it.
     
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  6. Thepleasantimbiber

    Thepleasantimbiber Zealot (570) Oct 30, 2013 California
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    I bartend as well, and I find that a quick, "would you like a taster or do you want a full glass?" usually solves the problem. I assumed this post was going to be about people asking to "try" nine different taster glasses before picking something different entirely.
     
  7. rjniles

    rjniles Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2012 South Carolina

    I guess I am partially guilty. When I would like to "try" (taste) a beer; I ask "May I try the XXXX ?" I think my use of "May' indicates my intent and the bartender has the option of telling me to pound sand.
     
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  8. satribesman

    satribesman Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2014 Texas

    If I use the word "try" I'm implying that I've never had the beer before, give me a full pour. If I want a sample, I ask for a sample.
     
  9. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    The English language is such an abused language. Just asking them if they want a sample seems like the easiest solution.
     
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  10. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    At the Toronado San Francisco, the bartender's response to anymore asking for more than one "taster" (if you're lucky enough to even get that first taster) is "This ain't 31 Flavors pal!"
     
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  11. FFFjunkie

    FFFjunkie Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2014 Illinois

    I order exactly the same way.
     
  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,120) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I sympathize and you're not insane, but unless the above request is being broadcast to all past, present and future patrons your request will do little good. Look on the bright side, if you've had just one miscommunication regarding this in half a year, I'd say things are working out amazingly well.
     
  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Try=full serving.

    Taste(r) or sample=taste(r) or sample.
     
  14. Phocion

    Phocion Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2005 Minnesota

    I've bartender for a few years and still do once or twice a week on the side right now. I definitely can relate to this, and it seems to go about 50/50. I've learned that I can usually tell just by tone/context with about 90% accuracy what the customer means. On the occasion it is still ambiguous, a simple "would you like a sample or a pint?" typically suffices.
     
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  15. SouthAtholSuds

    SouthAtholSuds Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2008 Massachusetts

    I say try while I do the thing with my index finger and thumb
     
  16. mohawk5

    mohawk5 Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2014 New Jersey

    I never get a sample at a bar. I always know what I'm going to be drinking. As far as style goes. To me asking for a sample especially if it's busy is a pain in the ass for the bartender.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I make sure to use the word "taste". Using the expression of "have a little taste" is even more explicit.

    I personally do not use the word "sample" because several of my local beer bars provide sample glasses (e.g., 6-8 ounce small glasses) as well.

    Cheers!
     
  18. alk3kenny

    alk3kenny Pundit (776) Oct 21, 2004 Georgia

    I never get samples or tasters of a beer... Don't think you can really get the full essence or flavor from a sip or 2 but if I was to do it I would ask for a sample.
     
  19. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    No. Stop it. Don't do that anymore. Try saying the word "taste". See how easy it was, and nobody has to see you finger things. :wink:
     
  20. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, around here at least, when you get a taste, it's generally a couple ounces, which is certainly enough to tell if the beer is what you're looking for.
     
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