Using the Word "Try" at a Bar

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  1. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Patrons should clearly state their intent.

    Patrons who try to "oversample" are jerks.

    I am not a server.
     
  2. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    Wow, really, is this what people rant about now on BA?:astonished:
     
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  3. qchic

    qchic Maven (1,303) Jul 6, 2004 Maryland

    I love bars that have a sample/taster size option. This makes things easier for everyone, no? Bars are nice to pass you a free taster, but this way people can try more beers and they still make money. Without the confusion.
     
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  4. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    That's pretty much how I would figure "try"/"have" would work.

    "I'll try [insert beer here]" = having a new beer, but going for a full glass of it. "I'll have a [insert beer here]" = having a beer I've already tried before. If I wanted to order a sample of a beer that I was really unsure of before going for a full glass, I'd specifically ask for a sample of it.

    Usually if I'm trying a new beer though I won't just say something like "I'll try [insert beer here]" but more along the lines of "oh, you have [insert beer here], I've never tried that before. I'll have one of those." Or if they have several different glass/pour sizes advertised, I'd just go ahead and ask for 12/16/whatever ounces of [insert beer here]. Probably not much confusion there.
     
  5. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Have you ever considered taking to being proavtive (an over-used term, to be sure) and asking your clientele whether they'd like to try a small sample before deciding upon a full Libbey pint?

    But I hear ya; A few of us older folks know what we want* and order by the pint -- what's the point of giving anything less than a pint a fair shake, eh? My experience with the majority of Craft Beer hobbyists today is that they're keen on sampler flights (with four 3 to 5 ounce pours... ) rather than full pints. Usually cheaper to get a buzz on those sampler flights, too!

    *We don't have a lot of time to fool around in noisy bars, what with families to entertain and such back home. :wink:
     
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  6. newjack

    newjack Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2014 Illinois

    I can't believe this is actually on a third page :confused::confused::confused:
     
  7. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    If I want to see what a beer tastes like before buying a full glass, the words sample or taste generally work better than try.
     
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  8. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Not a server, but it's a pet peeve when people use 'try' when they mean 'have.' Same with 'borrow' (as in, "Can I borrow a tissue?" No, you can have the tissue.)
    If you're sampling, you're trying something. If you're ordering, you're having it.
     
  9. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    See, at first I was more prone to giving a taster (sample) when someone used the word. But, after so many times of running into folks like you who say "Can I try" and assume I will read your mind and think you mean a full pour, I gave up and just started pouring a pint when I heard it. Then homeboy from yesterday comes along and almost has me wasting a full pint of beer when he means it the other way around. Like I said before, better to give a taste and be wrong than pour a full pint and be wrong. And, like I also said before, yes I understand that I now must communicate with the guest and ask them if they want a half pour (half pours are commonplace here) or a full pour.
     
  10. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Ya know I honestly can't remember because, even if I'm on the fence about a beer, I'll at least get a flight pour (4 oz). I've definitely asked for tasters but I really can't remember what the most recent one was. Plus, this place is really close to my house: http://www.pourtaproom.com/ Completely eliminates the issue.
     
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  11. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    My boss uses that analogy. One could argue that the food requires preparation, while all you have to do to give a taster is turn around, pull a handle and splash some liquid in a glass.
     
  12. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    I do that too. I can usually decide on a full pour of something immediately but, only after demonstrating that I'm a paying customer, will I bother* the bartender for a taster of something. But usually people who ask for tastes right off the bat have no clue what they're looking for in the first place so it's unfair to compare them to a BA.

    *Yes, it's only a bother if it's busy.
     
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  13. Phramboise

    Phramboise Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2013 Kentucky

    Dumbest thread ever. Why wouldn't you just always clarify? Never assume- you know what that does.

    Now as a patron/consumer (when I'm not the one doing the pouring) I always say "sample" just to clarify.

    Jeez.
     
  14. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    I don't ask to try sips of beer at a bar before I order a whole glass because I'm not a douchebag.
     
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  15. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    I had that thought too but the guy yesterday who said "try" was very clearly a southerner. :confused:
     
  16. BlindSalimander

    BlindSalimander Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2010 Texas

    This issue is trying.
     
  17. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Never was. If it bothered me to the point of complete frustration, I'd just stop being a bartender. Just trying to see if others share my point of view which multiple people have been in the rest of the thread.
     
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  18. HelpMeBloody

    HelpMeBloody Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2013 Rhode Island

    I get that a lot, and it has become second nature to clarify their request, but I do see it as a lack of communication. Even if I didn't tend bar, I wouldn't use the word try to order a beer. I understand the fact that some people are trying a beer for the first time, and their inflection usually supports that. At the end of the day, it is what it is. As a professional in the service industry, you just have to learn how to expedite better communication to the customer.
     
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  19. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Thank you for your contribution.
     
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  20. larryarms847

    larryarms847 Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2010 Illinois

    Not sure if you have the powers to do this, but how about suggesting a visible menu where you specify different pour sizes (i.e. Sample, Half Pour, Full, etc. etc.). I've seen countless bars do this and I doubt they run into this problem. But some people just aren't good with words and will screw it up regardless. I've been to places where they get really specific (i.e. 2 oz, 6 oz, 9oz, 12oz, 16oz, 20oz) and I've been with people that say "I'll try blank beer" and the server asks them to specify size. As others stated though, it's a dialect thing. I've heard "I'll try," "let me try," "give me a," "I'll take," "pour me a," etc. It's best to just ask the customer to specify what size they want to sample.
     
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