Vermont Beerventure help please.

Discussion in 'New England' started by flaskman, Jun 25, 2018.

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  1. flaskman

    flaskman Pundit (985) Aug 3, 2015 New York

    Hello all. For many years I have been heading to Vermont each summer for a 12 hour marathon beer run using Lake Placid as home base. Things have changed so much and so quickly I would appreciate any advice on where to go for canned or bottled beer. We have traditionally chased down Sip but I can now purchase it 10 minutes from my home in Western New York. Other than a stop at The Alchemist and maybe Hunger Mountain Co-op I am pretty much clueless on where to go as I have 1 chance a year to score in Vermont and live 14 hours away.. Any advice or suggestions is appreciated.
     
  2. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Hop on over to the New England forum and post this. Plus a search of that forum will give you a lot of great advice on buying spots times, dining, etc.
     
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  3. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    If you only have a short time to buy I would suppose that standing in line at a remote Hill Farmstead would be out. But it's not a trip to Vt without HF. But we stayed in Waterbury to keep within a reasonable drive of most places and I'd call the places you want to visit and tell them your story, I'm sure if they know that your driving that far to visit them they'd be more than helpful. I've only done the drive twice but the people I dealt with were extremely gracious. To be honest only having to drive thru NY on I 95 stops me from doing it again.
     
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  4. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    Craft Beer Cellar in Waterbuy fits the bill. Honestly though. Local bottles and cans (Frost, BBC, Alchemist, Fiddlehead, Upper Pass, Red Barn, etc etc) get excellent distro throughout Chittenden county. If you were to stop at three random gas stations I bet you could find whatever you are looking for.
     
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  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Haha, next time take Thruway to Northway, get off Glens Falls/Fort Ann exit 20(? double check #), take Rt. 149 to 4, 4 to Rutland, then 4 up mtn. to Rt. 100 N. and take that all way to Waterbury, or take 107 at well marked fork to Rt. 89, and that all the way to Waterbury (quicker, MUCH less scenic). Thank me later.
     
  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It wasn't so bad a drive when my son was at Ft Drum, it's a fairly easy drive around the lakes and lots of great scenery. The drive home was schlepping it thru NY and the GWB had to be a 15 mile backup. I used to work NY back in the day and still hate it. I'll keep the route in mind I could go 81 into PA and pick up the Thruway off the PA Tpke Extension. I'm still guessing a 13 hour drive.
     
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  7. sosbombs

    sosbombs Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2016 Vermont

    Rutland has a couple of good stops on the way
     
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  8. ElBuffalo

    ElBuffalo Aspirant (262) Apr 23, 2015 Canada (ON)
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    Got the opportunity to do this trip in April 2017. Approx. 9 hrs from Hamilton, Ontario to Burlington area. Stops at Fiddlehead and Alchemist Friday night. HF in the "morning" then stops at Winooski Beverage, Foam, Switchback, Zero Gravity, Rock Art, and Prohibition Pig. Also went out in the downtown Burlington area at night which was great. Most places stock all of the local favourites you are looking to acquire! Enjoy!
     
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  9. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    If you had some extra time how far is Boston from say Waterbury? Lots of great MA beers too.
     
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  10. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    How is this not in the NE forum?
     
  11. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Hill Farmstead. It's about three and a half hours from Lake Placid, and pretty much every other spot you might want to visit is more or less on-route between the two.
     
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  12. Piels25

    Piels25 Savant (1,034) Dec 17, 2013 Massachusetts
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    3 hours one way, without traffic. Not going to fit into the OP's itinerary. Plenty of good beer in northern VT that he'll have access to that we can't get here in Mass.
     
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  13. Sheppard

    Sheppard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,516) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    @flaskman a couple questions:
    1. What kind of beers are you into?
    2. Are you saying 14 hours round trip or one way? How?
     
  14. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    It's a little over three hours drive-time from Lake Placid to Hill Farmstead via Burlington and Stowe, another hour-plus down to White River Junction, and then three more hours to complete the circuit back to Lake Placid via 125 and 7 through Middlebury. So, on that roughly seven hour circuit you can find every single beer in Vermont that's worth finding. Draw it on a map. Go to 'Places' and sort by average beer rating and put X's on your map. Twelve hours is easy-peasy.
     
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  15. flaskman

    flaskman Pundit (985) Aug 3, 2015 New York

    Beers: anything I can't normally get.
    14 hours is the typical round trip using Lake Placid as home base. The typical trip has been chasing Heady and Sip. It's totally different now. I just want to maximize my time.
     
  16. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I guess it depends on your intent, too. Are we talking about a hero-level personal binge episode or are you buying for friends, family, trade and/or resale, too? In other words, are you shopping primarily for cans or are you filling growlers, too.

    Because, if it were me - and disturbingly often it is, only from the opposite compass heading - I could fill the 4' bed and backseat of my small pickup truck with cans and growlers with stops at Foam (growlers and maybe a few cans) > Beverage Warehouse > Alchemist (5 cases lately) > Hill Farmstead (2 cases cans + growlers) > River Roost (slim chance of cans + growlers) and Big Fatty's (cans and crowlers) > then back up 89 to Hunger Mountain, just in case you missed anything important. Totally doable in ten hours with a leisurely lunch. Way more hoppy NEPA's than you can drink before they go rancid.

    If you're just collecting cans for later, there really isn't a compelling need to stop at Frost, Foley, BBC, etc., because they're all pretty readily available in the stores at roughly the same prices as the brewery. And you'll run across plenty of SOS, whether you want to or not.
     
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  17. Sheppard

    Sheppard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,516) Mar 16, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Seconded what @papposilenus said, regarding intent. It sounds like you want to grab as much to go beer as possible? It's not necessarily about visiting places.

    Foam lists their can releases so if you're intent on getting some of their stuff, follow their website. You can get growler fills there too if they don't have cans.

    Hill Farmstead is the only must visit brewery IMO. I'm not sure how much of the shelf saisons are making it to distro, but if you want their hops, you've got to get up there. Growler fills available there too along with specialty bottles.

    River Roost is the only other brewery that I feel doesn't get distro. It's located in White River Junction, so you could go from Hill down to WRJ, then back up to Stowe/Waterbury or Burlington easily if we're trying to map up the marathon.

    Like pap said, most of the stuff is distro'd so if you went to the previously mentioned Beverage Warehouse in Winooski, you will probably have a lot of what you want covered. You don't have to go to breweries to get most of the stuff available.
     
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  18. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Right, I get so focused on the hoppy stuff that I forget about the farmhouse ales and stouts and stuff in the bottle shop. Must go to Hill. Not optional at all.
     
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  19. flaskman

    flaskman Pundit (985) Aug 3, 2015 New York

    Thanks to all for some great advice. I came home yesterday with 2 coolers full of great IPAs. I took your feedback and visited The Alchemist, Hill Farmstead and the Craft Beer Store across from the Prohibition Pig. Between those 3 places I was able to score pretty much anything I wanted from the Vermont best-of-the-best list. The weather was perfect along with the scenery. I took my wife along for the first time and she enjoyed it too. She even did some shopping. The first two beers I tried when I came home was "Double Citra" from Hill Farmstead and "B-72" from 14th Star. OMG...... I can't wait to try the rest.... Thanks again :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  20. Lupin

    Lupin Pundit (894) Jun 4, 2006 Connecticut
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    Double Citra cans with no limit this past week was.. a dangerous situation.
     
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