Very High Gravity Mash Temp

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  1. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Some wine yeasts will ferment maltose and maltotriose. One wine yeast that can ferment a beer wort has an ABV tolerance of 18%. However, it's a ale yeast killer, so not a good choice for a co-pitch.

    The most fermentable wort can be achieved with something like a 10 step mash. Have fun with that!

    Or you could, oh...I don't know...ADD SOME SUGAR, DAMN IT !!!
     
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  2. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

  3. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    What yeast are you referring to?
     
  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Lalvin K1-V1116
     
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  5. RallyMachine

    RallyMachine Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2015 Ohio
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    Haha I'm doing a turbid mash SF beer today and this RIS tomorrow so I guess why not right?

    But honestly I'll probably just use brown sugar to boost the gravity a bit. Shooting for a FG of 1.036

    I've got a fermentation chamber so I'm thinking 68° core temp ramping up to 70 or so over the next few days?
     
  6. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Have you fermented wort with this yeast personally? I'm curious what kind of attenuation you saw if so. Thanks.
     
  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I haven't used it. At least one beer brewery has used it as their house strain according to Danstar.
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    FWIW I mashed a big stout at 160 for an hour, and while the fg was high, it was half the fg dark lord comes in at. Its big, chewy, but not super sweet. Unfortunately the temps got away from me and there are some unwanted esters in there I am not a fan of.
     
  9. RallyMachine

    RallyMachine Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2015 Ohio
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    What was your OG, FG and yeast strain?
     
  10. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    What's the most sugar you would use for a huge beer? Just curious I've found more than a few pounds in 5 gallons affects the flavor a bit but that's Belgians and IPAs I would think you could use more in a big stout without noticing
     
  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'd use 2# of sugar for this beer, which is only 6.7% and use less base malt. It would bring the FG down to the mid 1.020s.
    But it isn't my beer. Some people like diabeetus stouts. I don't. Mid 1.020s is sweet enough for me.
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    1.123 og
    1.039 fg
    irish ale yeast from wlp. If I had used 001 I think I would have been better off.
     
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  13. RallyMachine

    RallyMachine Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2015 Ohio
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    I understand the diabeetus stout joke but there's actually more calories in a gram of alcohol than a gram of sugar lol
     
  14. RallyMachine

    RallyMachine Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2015 Ohio
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    Just an update on this. Mashed at 150ish for 90 minutes. No sugar added and hit OG of 1.144ish after boil. Crazy vigorous fermentation that stopped at 1.044 (13.2%) a little higher than I would have hoped. Added about half a gallon of water with 2lbs and some champagne yeast. Finished at 1.039 (some dilution from water/sugar combo) but it seems all added sugar fermented out. Resulting in a ~15% abv beer. Ibu was 100 so it balances the sweetness nicely.
     
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  15. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    You are going to need to aerate this wort very well.
     
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