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Release Victory's New Year Round Lager

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by ESHBG, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (223) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Teaser announced, I am excited to see what it is and to try it...nice to see all of this Lager love in the industry as of late:

    100% American whole flower hops loaded into...a lager? Yuuup! You read that right. Our next year-round release will be a lager without limits. This beer will satisfy hop heads and lager lovers alike.

    Join us for the lager revolution and stay tuned for big things coming this July...And you might as well drink a beer now, too. It's Friday!

    https://www.facebook.com/victorybeer/
     
  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,280) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
    Subscriber

    Looks like it's this:

    [​IMG]
     
  3. zid

    zid Champion (839) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    It's listed on BeerAdvocate as an AAL, but this sounds like a so-called IPL.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,017) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Supporter

    Since it is 4.8% ABV I would suggest the style of American Pale Lager.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. zid

    zid Champion (839) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    That's essentially the default listing for IPLs.
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,197) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    My question about that entry would be how does a guy who gives his home state as Minnesota know enough about a planned Victory lager that has not yet been released to create an accurate entry 3 months ago?
     
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  7. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (223) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I wonder if they plan on eventually dropping the Helles from the year round lineup? These sound like two different animals of course but I wonder if Helles, Prima Pils and this could be justified? They could for me but I know that my tastes may not represent the majority of craft beer drinkers. Also, when you compare Victory Helles to some of the other local options e.g. Sly Fox's, I think that Victory's falls just a bit short.
     
  8. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Zealot (528) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Victory does a great job with lagers. I'm sure this one will be solid.

    I'd be disappointed if the Helles Lager will be retired in favor of this new offering. Been a fan of that beer for many years, even in its prior incarnation as Victory Lager.
     
  9. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Subscriber

    "Juicy, Resinous Aromas". Boo to another use of this nebulous, over-used "juicy" term.

    Without saying what kind of fruit, the term is meaningless. For example, cranberry juice smells nothing like apple juice. They probably mean some type of citrus fruit- so say it!
     
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  10. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Subscriber

    This sounds quite different as it uses American hops instead of German varieties, and aimed more at the "IPA drinker". So it maybe it doesn't cannibalize sales from their German-style lagers?
     
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  11. needs_more_dog

    needs_more_dog Initiate (128) Sep 13, 2016 Arizona

    i'm hoping it leans more toward a pils than it does an IPL. the latter just seem too 'Imperial' for me. I thought SN's Hoppy Lager from the party pack had some serious candy and honey going on; too sweet for me. but this year's Summerfest is kicking all sorts of ass on my tastebuds. delicious
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,017) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Supporter

    Needless to say I have not tried this new Victory Beer but I have a suspicion that this beer is intended to compete with Founders PC Pils.

    Cheers!
     
  13. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (223) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    My thoughts as well. I enjoy PC Pils so if it's close to that I will be happy.
     
  14. hillind

    hillind Aspirant (266) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Hope this sees cans
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,280) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
    Subscriber

    That is the can "label" in post #2.

    Bottle label looks similar to this:
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,192) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico

    I wish NM got Victory's beers.

    Need to revisit Prima Pils and the Helles, the latter of which I only tried once and was unimpressed with but want to give another shot to since developing a much greater love for lagers.
     
  17. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (4,434) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Subscriber

    On FB they stated the hops used are Centennial, Mosaic, Azacca, Cascade, Chinook, and Citra
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,017) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Supporter

    A bit more varied as compared to Founders PC Pils which uses Chinook, Cascade and Centennial.

    Maybe Founders should have labeled this beer as 3C Pils?

    Cheers!
     
  19. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,078) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    I'm predicting this will taste somewhat like a cross between Summer Love and Helles Lager. Whatever the case, I'm excited. Victory makes excellent lagers.
     
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  20. Starkbier

    Starkbier Initiate (165) Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    No it wont be like a cross of SL and Helles since the former uses Tettnang hops and the latter is a low hopped beer. This will be more of an American sessionable hoppy lager.
     
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  21. jageraholic

    jageraholic Disciple (392) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    Will this see their full distribution or is this only...."Set to release locally in PA, NJ, DE and at the Winking Lizard Taverns in OH next month."
     
  22. tzieser

    tzieser Champion (841) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    Sounds a bit like Stillwater Yacht or Carton Sit Down Son, which is a great thing.
     
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  23. invertalon

    invertalon Devotee (492) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    I can't wait to try this! We will be at Parkesburg this Saturday for the tapping and $3 pints... Looking forward to crushing a few of these.
     
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  24. invertalon

    invertalon Devotee (492) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    So I had a few of these the other day, really enjoy it! Very bright hop aroma on the nose, crisp flavor and finish. Very solid beer. I prefer it over PC Pils myself.
     
  25. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (223) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I agree, really enjoy it and it will be in the regular rotation for sure. I saw on FB that people were asking for cans and that would be a great idea, solid beach/pool beer.
     
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  26. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    I had a few of these over the last couple of months and enjoy it quite a bit. Upthread a few folks mentioned this as an IPL and I definitely get more hop presence in the beer than I'd typically expect from a lager. There's more of a citrus profile in this compared to Founders PC Pils which gives me more of a slight roast.
     
  27. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,017) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Supporter

    Despite the specifics of the favor profile would you consider Founders PC Pils and Victory Home Grown Lager to be the same 'type' of beer?

    Cheers!
     
  28. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    Well, almost. Both are technically lagers, but I think the roast I get from PC Pils moves it a step away from Home Grown.
     
  29. msscott1973

    msscott1973 Devotee (447) Dec 28, 2013 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    Had one of these from the tap a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed it.
     
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  30. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,078) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    So, after having had it, I'd describe it as being like Prima Pils crossed with DirtWolf. The hop flavor is big citrus, pineapple, with earth and pine like DirtWolf, but as a crisp lager.
     
  31. zid

    zid Champion (839) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    I tried Home Grown, and it doesn't fit my earlier comment about IPL as much as it fits the mold of the nouveau American craft "pilsner"... and it's actually more enjoyable in that regard than the last few nouveau pilsners I had. Maybe I'll start to call these beers NAPs (nouveau American pilsner) as a play on CAPs (classic). It's a lousy name, but hard to resist.
     
  32. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,017) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Supporter

    I can't wait to read which beers medal in the NAP category at the next GABF!:slight_smile:

    Cheers!
     
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  33. Squire123

    Squire123 Poo-Bah (1,543) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
    Supporter Subscriber Beer Trader

    Nouveau Pilsner has cache like Nouveau Beaujolais.
     
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  34. zid

    zid Champion (839) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    Nouveau sounds nice... sounds more like a thing, but "new" would have been a better choice on my end when you consider etymology and the thing being described. :wink: :slight_smile:
     
  35. rgordon

    rgordon Crusader (725) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    So, I had a few NAPS and then went to sleep. I like that name.
     
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  36. ecpho

    ecpho Initiate (179) Mar 28, 2011 New York

    Any reason these are made as lagers and not as ales so they could call it an IPA? We know those sell. Or would it have to then be a session IPA at 4.8% - which is dead in the water for a lot of us.
     
  37. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (1,953) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    How does Nouveau Riche fit? It's what I was thinking when I first started using the Nouveau Pilsner term.:
    noun
    noun: nouveau riche
    1
    . people who have recently acquired wealth, typically those perceived as ostentatious or lacking in good taste.

    And yeah, I was using it more sarcastically than as a true adjective as the French do with the
    Beaujolais. :wink:
     
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  38. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (1,953) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Gimmicked innovation. It's just like an IPA, but different! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  39. zid

    zid Champion (839) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    :astonished: I just searched your use of the term... you're telling the truth. Either your previous posts left a subliminal mark on me, or too many Clampett cartoons equally messed our brains. :wink:
     
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  40. ecpho

    ecpho Initiate (179) Mar 28, 2011 New York

    That's how it seems to me - they should just stop acting like they are inventing something new and just say its an IPA - just in lager form for variety's sake.
     
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