Vino vs. beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Uniobrew31, Oct 12, 2013.

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  1. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Yes.If you want to know whether God exists you don't ask a clergyman , if you want to know whether climate change is an issue you don't ask a climatologist. They are there because they believe.
     
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  2. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I have met a whole bunch of Italians in my day that I doubt you would say that to.
     
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  3. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    It was tongue in cheek. Asking people whether they prefer "cheap" wine vs "awesome world class" beer on a beer website is verging on pointless.
     
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  4. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    Each is a mood thing for me. I buy wine that costs $10 or less a liter at Sam's club. Some times I want a Cabernet Sauvignon with a steak and sometime I want ice tea and Heinz 57 steak sauce. I love beer and drink it more than wine. always have always will. but I am flexible. When faced with limited beer choices I can bend to wine or mixed drinks or water. easy questions for me.
     
  5. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 North Carolina

    Depends on the wine but generally I'll take wine. Thank god great beer is still about 10% the cost of great wine.
     
  6. Augustiner719

    Augustiner719 Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2008 Massachusetts

    to be honest, there is a lot of crap beer out there, especially in this "bubble" we are experiencing where new breweries pop up just about every week. I've had my share of crap 8.99 bombers lately, and to be honest, i am more inclined to stick with breweries that have a tried and true reputation when trying new stuff and spending that kind of dough. The same works for wineries. I've had my share a crap 2 buck chuck, however some of the best wines I have had are in the $10 range. On this website its not really a fair argument but if you hold the buying practices to beer and wine, I would say its pretty close actually. I have also had plenty of high end Geuze beers especially from Armand which, while they were good, not worth paying 40$ more for than a cantillon or 3 fontenein lambic.. to each their own
     
  7. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Spain is producing terribly good wines made with grapes from 70 year old vines, granache and tempranillo grapes at about $10-12 per bottle. Now more of course for the really good ones. You can get a nice pinot grigio from Italy for under $10 and I am lucky enough to live in a "wine country" here in the finger lakes region of upstate new york. We like both wine and beer around here and there's no reason why you can't. If you are paying $9 and up for a bomber or $30 for a brueury 750 ml then you can visit the grapes from france and buy classic burgundy or bordeaux. Just remember " cotes du rhone!"

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  8. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    Red Wine always tends to give me a headache. On the other hand I could drink an entire bottle of white wine no problem.

    But I never buy wine, beer is tastier!
     
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  9. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I love beer, but nothing beats an excellent wine. It may cost $100+ a bottle, require years of aging and meticulous storage, but when it all comes together, it's phenomenal.

    Beer has the edge from a price, consistency, and availability standpoint though.
     
  10. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I come from an equal background of beer and wine, love both, and I think it's a fair inquiry. Beer is getting snottier all the time, but dammit beer wins hands down! Having multiple bottles of Olde Hickory Lindley Park tonight with big ol' burgers. There are outrageous values in the wine world, like Spanish Garnacha and Monastrell, that do not hurt the wallet at all. I always have plenty of both beer and wine on hand for any eventuality!
     
  11. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 North Carolina

    You sir are drinking dogshit red wine with too much RS. Come visit me in Napa (bring some captain lawrence of course) and I will treat you to some better red wine :slight_smile:
     
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  12. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    I don’t know the right people but what always seemed like a great idea to me is to get some beer geeks who know nothing of wine together with some wine geeks who do not know beer.
    Both sides will introduce each other to different styles etc. & give explanations. Would love to be part of something like that.
     
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  13. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    One huge advantage that beer has is that even on a modest budget you can have access to literally some of the greatest beers in the world. The same cannot be said of wine. Great Burgundy, Bordeaux, Piedmont, etc isn't accessible to the average budget.
     
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  14. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 North Carolina

    You don 't even have to go that far. It is essentially impossible to find great napa cabernet for under $100 a bottle.
     
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  15. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Napa is a great wine region as well.
     
  16. BethanyB

    BethanyB Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 New York

    I think your observation that a bottle of Chimay, while expensive compared to crap beers, costs less than a crap wine, says a lot. Spending more on shitty wine or spending less in world class beer is the opposite of a conundrum. I think even a wine lover would go for the beer.
     
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  17. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

    Much like a savvy beer buyer, a savvy wine buyer can avoid the duds and the bad qpr wines (not sure if that term is used in the beer world, qpr is quality to price ratio, which given the wide range in wine price and quality, is an important thing to get right). There are many things that make wine expensive, more expensive than beer. Three off the top of my head:
    1. You can only make wine once a year
    2. Good wine, especially reds, are tied up aging for years before they can be sold
    3. Bad weather = bad wine
    That said, wine brings some things to the connoisseur that beer doesn't. And the converse is true too.
     
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  18. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I drank a lot more wine and had access to a lot more good wine when I was waiting tables, a time long since passed.

    These days I dig a nice red (but few whites), but I don't drink wine all that often and when I do it's a couple of glasses over the course of a meal. By contrast, beer's something I drink with or without food. Such versatility! I've also increasingly developed a taste for session beers (per traditional definition of such), which allows me to be a quaffer in a way wine doesn't.

    I find time for both, but I spend perhaps ten times more time with beer. Beer!
     
  19. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium


    Sounds like lambic to me. Feels appropriate hearing this from Gaahl since he is a big fan of wine.
     
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  20. Local_Yeti

    Local_Yeti Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2013 New York

    I enjoy some types of wines but generally I would much rather have a average beer over a $50 + bottle of Barolo,Chianti,Bordeaux,Napa Chard, etc.
     
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