Volcano

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  1. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Ok. I have made yeast starters in the past with no problems using a pot and a glass jug.
    I bought a 2L flask figuring I can boil the starter and pitch the yeast into the same vessel. Also I can eventually use a stir plate.

    Well. I boiled my water like usual and took the flask off the stove. Added the DME and whoosh!
    Boiled up and out and all over the place.

    What the heck did I do wrong? I waited for the boiling to stop before adding the DME as well.
     
  2. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Think I figured it out. Northern Brewer has a video that shows adding the DME to the water before boiling.

    Since I add dry extract to boiling water I thought that was the way to go.

    Live and learn
     
  3. pepperford

    pepperford Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2008 Minnesota

    And use some anti foam or you'll have another mess on your hands.
     
  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    DME + warm water = easy, tranquil mixing and something to do while waiting for the water to boil

    Edit: Add hops and skip the decant for a real simple, fast starter : )
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't think I would ever add hops to a starter. They inhibit yeast growth. How much I dunno, but 'any' inhibition would seem to be counterproductive.
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Hops make yeast strong like bull! : )
    Seriously, it's more about justifying NOT doing the decanting.
     
  7. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Why would you ever NOT decant?
     
  8. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Easy...wasted beer. That may change with lagers, but for ales I routinely make 2 litre, <24 hr, lightly hopped, non-decanted starters with excellent results.
     
  9. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    You don't have time to let the yeast fall out of suspension.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    |It helps to plan ahead|
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jamil Zainasheff pitches his yeast starter (he doesn’t decant):

    “I like to pitch starters while they're still very active and as soon as the bulk of reproduction is finished, usually within 12 to 18 hours. This is really convenient, because I can make a starter the morning of the brew day or the night before and it is ready to go by the time the batch of wort is ready.”


    Cheers!
     
  12. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Jamil is the man! Thats good. Making my non-volcano starter tonight for a Saturday brew day.
    Thanks all!
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Jamil has also said that he crashes and decants large starters.
    I crash and decant all of mine. The starter worts are not part of my recipes.
     
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  14. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    OK. So better luck last night on making the starter. I am a bit worried though. The yeast is a harvested 1056 from a month ago that has been chilling. I poured off the top and let it warm to room temp. Then pitched the slurry into my starter. Swirling off and on all night but this morning no sign of activity that I can see. Was my yeast dead?
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  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No stir plate? I recommend patience and lots of swirling.
     
  16. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Don't worry . . . be optimistic. My starters with new yeast seem to take off after a couple of hours. But my most recent "washed 1056" took forever. It was 18 hours before I saw the first sign of activity. Then it behaved normally.
     
  17. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    OK. I have a pkg of Safale 05 on hand just in case.
    Thanks.
     
  18. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    No stir plate.
    Its on the list :wink:
     
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