Wachusett entering the hazy IPA arena

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  1. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Just stopped by the brewery and tried the Wally and Wally Jr. Ipas. They are marketed as hazy NE Ipas and certainly were in style. I enjoyed both and was pleasantly surprised. These were not Tree House Ipas, but they will make me reconsider the 3 hour round trip to TH. Anyone else sample them? Thoughts? Also, a general thought, seems like a lot of breweries are trying to make TH/Trillium brews-I am wondering how many are coming close. As I said, Wachusett isn't there yet, but Wally/Wally Jr. are certainly shots across the bow.
     
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  2. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Glad to hear that - I'll be interested to check them out. Did they still have some bitterness to them or were they aiming for the pure juicebomb sort of thing?

    I was just thinking recently about the fact that I never really buy Wachusett anymore, even though as recently as a couple years ago I was getting Larry and the mixed IPA 12 packs fairly frequently. Crazy how quickly the landscape has changed.
     
  3. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    very little bitterness- more in the citra juice bomb vein. I liked Wally Jr. more for what it is worth-thought it was a cleaner showcase for the hops. I'm hoping for more brews in this style to come from Wachusett. And I agree with you, I haven't been in ages but had a Wally on draft recently and it led me to check in at the brewery.
     
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  4. hemiman

    hemiman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2014 Massachusetts

    I tried the Wally a few weeks ago and enjoyed it. I live 5 minutes away from Wachusett so I'm glad to see my local brewery putting out a "new era" NE IPA. Hopefully this is the start of some exciting new brews from them.
     
  5. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Does anyone know when/if these will be hitting widespread distribution in cans? Sounds like the people in this thread only had it on draft or at the brewery if I'm reading right.
     
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  6. matthewp

    matthewp Pundit (856) Feb 27, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Sounds interesting, I'll have to check that out, haven't had anything from Wachusett in a long time. Long Trail has made a similar move with their Space Juice release and Green Blaze IPA. Space Juice is more along the lines of the NE style and Green Blaze just more of a modern IPA. I have never loved Long Trail but Space Juice was surprisingly good. Green Blaze is easy to get and Space Juice has limited releases every few months.
     
  7. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Wachusett is another one that flies under the radar. They don't have anything over the top mind-blowing, but they make good beers. their IPA was my daily drinker beer for a long time. I grabbed a pack of the Bella-Czeck pils for the game the other night - a real nice beer.
    I used to drink the Country Ale after a day skiing at Wachusett mountain.
    Good to hear they're bringing out a few new things, especially after they got in trouble a couple years ago (serving underage at the brewery, I think? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
     
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  8. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    It'll be interesting to see if they can keep the quality consistent. I bailed on Larry shortly after the cans came out because the batch to batch variation was to high.
     
  9. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I had a can or two at King's (because King's sucks, and that may have been the best option). I was pleasantly surprised. Not my favorite for the style, but it was a nice drinker. That's definitely meant as a compliment, because a lot of these breweries can really screw up pale lagers.

    I'd rather have this around than another "New England-style" IPA anyways. I can get one of those IPAs easily in MA. A local Czech Pils...not so much. But I doubt you'll find many people getting more excited about a Pils than an IPA...
     
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  10. matthewp

    matthewp Pundit (856) Feb 27, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Looking up the description on untappd for Wally you get:
    The Wachusett brewers banded together their over 160 years of brewing experience and developed a New England IPA.

    This IPA yields an ABV of 7%. The IBUs are 70. This is achieved by a variety of hops including: CTZ, Bravo, Citra, Simcoe, and an experimental hop named 431.

    The aroma is from an experimental 2-step dry hopping process using Citra and 431.

    The yeast is an English strain that is used in some of our other beers. The color is around 4 SRM and this beer is purposefully cloudy. The grains in this beer are: 2-row pale, Vienna, Melanoidin, Acidulated malt, Torrified Red Wheat and Golden Oats.

    The brew team is hard at work developing several new creative beers we will
    be presenting in 2017. Enjoy with Friends.
     
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  11. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    That last sentence is good to hear. I have no idea how well Wachusett is doing business wise, but I like seeing older breweries that I might take for granted mixing things up a bit.

    And @AlcahueteJ is right that we're hardly lacking for more IPAs, but if they can bring it to market at a decent price it'll be a worthy addition to the scene. The pickings for $10 local four/six packs are a bit thin these days (all hail Jack's Abby).
     
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  12. matthewp

    matthewp Pundit (856) Feb 27, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I agree I think its great if we can see some of these old dogs doing new tricks. I'm not expecting TreeHouse quality per se but the more beers of this style available from non nano breweries perhaps the less I'll be spending per beer which would be great. As mentioned we certainly do have a ton of IPA's but breweries like Wachusett are probably the most likely to get squeezed in the current market so its good to see them branching out.

    I have one of the bella check pils sitting in my fridge so I'm interested to see how that is now. One thing for sure in a couple of years the companies who make good beers other than just IPA's and BA stouts will still be around but the IPA only ones may not. Wow just re-read this post and its a lot of random thoughts streamed together :wink:
     
  13. AirBob

    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    It seems like more and more NE brewries are adapting to the NE IPA craze and putting out some great, cheap alternatives (thought not all are in the same vein). Ipswich Route 101, Long Trail Green Blaze, Otter Creek Free flow and Backseat Burner, etc. are all easy to find and <$10. Only trouble is finding them fresh.
     
  14. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I really hope breweries don’t abandon their current IPAs and feel they HAVE to brew juicyjuice beers instead. If they’re forced to do it to stay in business, then fine. But I hope breweries like Wachusett know that their current IPAs are completely legit, and some of us find a beer like Green Monstah to be very tasty for the type of IPA it’s going for. I want IPA variety, not a sea of one-dimensional juicyjuice clones.
     
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  15. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I may have overstated things a bit, but if you add in Jack's Abby and Castle Island I think that practically covers all of them :slight_smile:

    Totally agree. I like seeing breweries mix it up but generally not at the expense of their long standing lineups. I'm thinking things like Cape Ann introducing Deadeye and the BeerWorks getting themselves noticed again with Contender.

    I'd love to see the Wachusett IPA replace the "lite" IPA with something new in their 12 packs. As you say, the others (even the original) are perfectly good stuff.
     
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  16. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    The tap room bartender said that Wally and Jr. will be canned. I am not sure how much and how wide the distribution will be.
     
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  17. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Savant (1,169) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Totally agree with you-Wachusett IPA and Monster are great; I would just love a local juicy option.
     
  18. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    erf, that's a horrendous error of a sentence in my last post. That should say:

    "I'd love to see Wachusett replace the "lite" IPA with something new in their 12 packs"
     
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  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Ha, thanks. I read it and thought, "I'm not really sure what he meant there...replace the Lite with the Wachusett IPA (or Green Monstah even?) and then an additional new beer in the mix pack on top of that?...or is there some beer called Wachusett Original?..."
     
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  20. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    Are you thinking of the Country Pale? A very nice beer IMO.

    I give credit to Wachusett for doing a Session IPA before it was cool - and even calling it what it is more accurately - as a "Light" IPA.
     
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