Wayfinder and Ecliptic introduce Cold IPA

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  2. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

  3. BalancingBrooms

    BalancingBrooms Pooh-Bah (2,894) Aug 22, 2013 California
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    sooooo what im hearing is that its an IPL...

    :rolling_eyes:
     
  4. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2018 Maine
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    I don't like it
     
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  5. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Brut IPA resurrection?

    No offense to Ecliptic, but this one isn't going to "fly". :grimacing:
     
  6. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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  7. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    First it was "Triple IPA" gimmick and now this!
     
  8. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    They're gimmicks ... until they aren't. Brut IPA definitely never got out of the "gimmick" stage ... Who knows where this one will end up.
     
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  9. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    Huh.

    Although, from the description (lager yeast, heavy hopping) they could have called this a Double Italian-Style Pilsner if they really wanted to get this group riled up.
     
  10. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, Kevin Davie of Wayfinder really knows his stuff with Lagers, so I have no doubt that the beer will be really good. For me, it's just making a Lager, but calling it an Ale, is what gets the eye roll.
     
  12. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    They’re great and Wayfinder has been doing them for a while now.. If you don’t know them they make phenomenal true to type European lagers mostly. Lots of incredibly well executed technical beers and this is the stamp on hoppy beer and I think it’s cool. Authentic and on brand in a way.

    I think it’s an interesting take personally. It’s a pretty standard IPA with even less yeast character but not dry as a bone like Brut.

    Also lager yeast can do some really interesting shit to certain hop compounds.
     
  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, there were plenty of gimmicks before "Triple IPA" too. Remember the Cave Creek Chili Beer?
     
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  14. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    They need you on the marketing team.

    I really want the modern hoppy lager trend to mature because the best examples.I've found are among my favorite beers. I'd love to try this style made by skilled brewers. The impulse to IPA-ize everything hurts in an ironic way. Don't these hip brewers know that modern remakes of classic styles are all the rage. New world lagers.are the new IPA, what do they think this is...2019? My naming convention suggestion is;

    American Imperial Italian Pilsner
     
  15. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    As if IPA did not already get enough attention, now your telling me we need to entertain yet another sub-category of IPA. Are you kidding me! Before you know it the beer world will be full of different iterations of IPA. I sure dont hope so..... There is some much more to beer then IPA.
     
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  16. thebeeremptor

    thebeeremptor Pundit (764) Aug 12, 2018 California
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    I just had Wayfinder's Relapse, another "cold" IPA and it was quite good. A great marriage of what Wayfinder already does really well (lagers) and putting an IPA spin on it.

    Yes it's technically an IPL if you want to venture into pedantic territory but if rebranding IPLs as "cold IPA" gets more people interested in the style, I'm all for it.

    Yes, it's absolutely dumb/smart marketing bullshit for the kind of people who think Coors or Bud when you mutter the word "lager" under your breath to get them to try something that is only tangentially related to their notions of what lagers are.
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Sounds like another way to bring back a Brut ipa, but giving it another name. That died very quickly here at least. I’ve got nothing against wc style ipas imo their just right, I like JA beers, but I can’t think of any IPLs here, perhaps I just missed them. Like most things the brewers skill reflects on the final product not so much the type of malt or grains or adjuncts. Lots of mediocre beers out there using water/hops/barley/ yeast. Great brewers make the magic.
     
  18. LADEDA

    LADEDA Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Florida

    I like trying new beers. From gimmie more to drainpour.
     
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  19. AMessenger

    AMessenger Aspirant (269) Mar 17, 2018 Pennsylvania

    The “Pants in the Ground” of beer
     
  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Guinness got there first.

    In the US, legally to label a malt beverage "Ale" it's got to be "fermented at a comparatively high temperature" regardless of the strain of yeast. Now, obviously, lots of beers have been fermented with lager yeast at higher than normal lager temps, like steam beer and pre-craft US so-called bastard ales and, I sorta doubt the TTB goes into breweries armed with a thermometer before approving these "Cold IPA" labels...

    Huh?

    Well, most (all?) Brut IPA's used the enzyme Glucoamylase/Amyloglucosidase - the same stuff used by many brewers for their "light beer".

    I think that happened already ... :astonished:
     
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