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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mrtoast, Jun 23, 2015.

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  1. mrtoast

    mrtoast Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 Ohio

    Any of you that spend time searching out the good beer have probably had a similar experience to this...

    I was traveling through a small town in Ohio recently and stopped at a mom and pop beer/cigarette/lottery ticket type place that had a sign up bragging about their beer selection. They did have a good selection, but maybe it outpaced the local consumers. I was initially excited to find several beers that wouldn't have lasted 24 hours on the shelves at the beer nerd stores in my home town of Kent, but then I was ultimately filled with deep sadness that they were so far past their prime that I too had to leave them behind. This time it was two of my all time favorites; Fat Head's Hop Stalker (canned last October), and SN Celebration (bottled in February). Here is where I think there is a need for a new vocabulary term for those worthy beers that are somehow left behind, or a term for the act of discovering one.

    Any suggestions?
     
    #1 mrtoast, Jun 23, 2015
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  2. KSOZE

    KSOZE Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Ohio

    POO beers.

    Prisoners of Obscurity.
     
    #2 KSOZE, Jun 23, 2015
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  3. DarkerTheBetter

    DarkerTheBetter Pooh-Bah (2,233) Sep 30, 2005 Minnesota
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    How about "old?"
     
    #3 DarkerTheBetter, Jun 23, 2015
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  4. rfgetz

    rfgetz Pooh-Bah (2,597) Nov 14, 2008 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    I call them "expired"
     
    #4 rfgetz, Jun 23, 2015
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  5. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Wildlings
     
    #5 rozzom, Jun 23, 2015
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I woulda grabbed me some of that Celebration. That beer holds up very well, and is a treat to drink during the summer. My friend Justin buys an extra case every year just for that purpose.

    We could call those type of stores a GOSH: Golden Opportunity for a Surprise Haul.
     
    #6 BBThunderbolt, Jun 23, 2015
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  7. nmyers462000

    nmyers462000 Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Florida

    I think the act should be call "getting sharted" because you basically crap yourself for no reason and have to walk out with the stench of nothing but crap in your pants and disappointment.

    Then again, I probably wouldn't have got my hopes up on the Hop Stalker to begin with... but I catch your drift OP (just not downwind... haha).
     
    #7 nmyers462000, Jun 23, 2015
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  8. Lamnic

    Lamnic Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 Connecticut

    ^^^this
     
    #8 Lamnic, Jun 23, 2015
  9. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Guess I've always misunderstood what shelf turd means then. A term I dislike anyway.
     
    #9 rozzom, Jun 23, 2015
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  10. BrewlsRules

    BrewlsRules Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2015 Wisconsin

    distributors call that a distribution drive.
     
    #10 BrewlsRules, Jun 23, 2015
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  11. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Ha. Whether I like it or not, a 9 month old IPA is not a shelf turd. Unless the definition has changed
     
    #11 rozzom, Jun 23, 2015
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  12. JCV2015

    JCV2015 Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2015 Wisconsin

    There's a place nearby that distributor's refer to as "The Museum" because beer collects so much dust there. They still have bottles on the shelves from when some breweries first hit our state a few years ago.

    I generally reserve "shelf turd" for beers that don't/won't sell well even when fresh. Can I propose "museum piece" or "MP" to describe the beer you came across?
     
    #12 JCV2015, Jun 23, 2015
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  13. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Shelf turd is a beer that you can actually go into a store and buy when you want one. As opposed to brewery only releases, or highly limited releases. I've always understood it to be a tongue in cheek derogatory term because the beer is sooooo available, and therefore not worthy of the attention of the uber trader/nerd.

    I.e. HF Edward and Maine Peeper. Both APAs. Both delicious. Both beers I would purchase. Peeper is a shelf turd. Edward is not.

    9 month old Peeper is just an old beer I'm not going to buy.
     
    #13 rozzom, Jun 23, 2015
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  14. KSOZE

    KSOZE Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Ohio

    ^Correct.
     
    #14 KSOZE, Jun 23, 2015
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  15. Brutus627

    Brutus627 Pundit (755) Feb 3, 2014 Maine

    I think "shelf turd" pretty adequately describes a beer that has been sitting on the "shelf" for 9 months and is now a "turd" as the result of this. I found a wonderful 4 "museum pieces" at an unlikely shop and bought them out dust an all. It was lambic though haha not IPA
     
    #15 Brutus627, Jun 23, 2015
  16. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,596) Jan 22, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    See above:

    1. The part where I said I didn't like the term (I'm just explaining to you my understanding of what it means)
    2. The part - "I've always understood it to be a tongue in cheek derogatory term because the beer is sooooo available, and therefore not worthy of the attention of the uber trader/nerd" (turd is meant jokingly - to differentiate it from the very limited beers that BAs usually crave/discuss)
     
    #16 rozzom, Jun 23, 2015
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  17. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    I thought a shelf turd was a beer that sat on the shelf so long it turned to shit.
     
    #17 fredmugs, Jun 23, 2015
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  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, I had always taken it to mean a beer that doesn't move off the shelves, whether it be a regular release or a seasonal beer. If you see a spring/summer beer in November, it shelf-turded, for example. YMMV.
     
    #18 BBThunderbolt, Jun 23, 2015
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  19. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    A Turd Ferguson?
     
    #19 PatrickCT, Jun 23, 2015
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  20. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    No offense, but in what world do you live in where you would see a Celebration in June and need to see the expiration date to know it's not fresh?
     
    #20 1eyed_jack, Jun 23, 2015
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