Weird Carbonation Problem

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by MaltLickyWithTheCandy, Oct 30, 2014.

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  1. MaltLickyWithTheCandy

    MaltLickyWithTheCandy Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Maryland

    So this hasn't happened to me before, maybe it's more common than I know. I cracked an IPA i bottled exactly two weeks ago, yesterday, and the carbonation was perfect. Good head, nice and fizzy, not to foamy. Come today, I just cracked one, and it's dead flat. Not even a hiss when i opened it. Thoughts? I don't know how one can be perfectly carbonated, while the other totally flat.
     
  2. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Didn't cap the bottle good? How many bottles have you opened? How many brews have you bottled?
     
  3. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Incomplete crimp, bad seal on the cap, capper wear,

    Or incomplete mix of sugar in bottling bucket
     
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  4. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Whether I add priming sugar before or after racking the beer to the bottling bucket, I always sanitize a big metal spoon and stir the beer to ensure good homogenization.
     
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  5. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I always give my bottles a twist with a bare hand to see that they're secure. I don't think there is anything to be gained by getting a wrench out and testing your capping.
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    This is very highly likely the reason for your inconsistent carbonation. I know because I've done it. Now I gently stir my beer in the bucket 4 times during the bottling process so that it stays in suspension. I use an upward stirring motion with my spoon to get the heavier sugar solution that is trying to sink to move back to the top of the beer and disperse.
     
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  7. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I wonder if a possible solution to the solution problem is to mix the priming sugar with more water, so that it's not so heavy. I don't know how much more that is.
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    When I bottle, I dissolve priming sugar in 1-2 cups of boiling water (off the burner) and make sure it is dissolved completely. Than I add it to bottling bucket as I fill the bucket, giving it a few gentle stirs when the bucket is fill. 10-15 min later, I bottle. No problems with consistency.
     
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  9. MaltLickyWithTheCandy

    MaltLickyWithTheCandy Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Maryland

    Shit. So i'm pretty sure i didnt stir. So is there a chance for those uncarbonated bottles?
     
  10. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I mix my sugar with a quart or so of water. I try to plan my 5-gallon batch to be just a quart short so that the sugar solution tops me off.
     
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  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Well, you've had a hint of 50-50 carbonated and non-carbonated, so I think you'll have a full range of carbonation in between, or possibly just outside of what you've experienced so far (i.e. over-carbonated to the point of potentially being a gusher). If you get a gusher you'll probably want to chill all of them to slow down or stop the remainder of the carbonation from continuing (if any sugar is left). So, be close to the sink whenever you open any of these bottles and have a glass ready. If you used the recommended amount of sugar for your batch size, and the sugar and liquid were both measured accurately (or you used a priming sugar calculator), then I doubt that you'll have any bottle bombs.
     
  12. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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  14. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    When I used to bottle, I never stirred and never had a problem. There is a good chance that one bottle did not get capped well and it leaked. See what happens with a couple more bottles before you start panicking :slight_smile: Regardless, at this point, it is hard to see a solution to your potential problem. Some of your bottles are carbed and some might not be, but how can you tell without opening them? If you knew which ones were not carbed, you could open those and add a little sugar and recap.
     
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  15. MaltLickyWithTheCandy

    MaltLickyWithTheCandy Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Maryland

    I wish there was a way to know (without opening them):slight_frown:
     
  16. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    Put a bunch in your fridge, and if you get a flat one just grab another and hope it's in better shape. I had this happen with a bottle from my first batch recently, too, but I don't know exactly what the problem was. I didn't stir the batch after adding the sugar, so that's one possibility, but it could also have just been a bad capping. That said, I've gone through about 2/3 of that batch and only had one bad bottle, so I think a loose cap is more likely to be the culprit.
     
  17. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    He solved his carbonation problem with this one weird trick, brewers hate him! Click to find out!
     
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  18. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    You may be able to tell by doing the following. Take a bottle and turn it upside down and then back to upside up. Those that are carbed will likely foam up (inside the bottle) more than those that aren't. Of course, you likely have a spectrum of carbonation levels. However, if this process allows you to identify the most undercarbed bottles, you can open those up, add a bit of sugar, and reseal.
     
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