West Coast Beercation

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by BigOldOaf, Feb 3, 2014.

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  1. BigOldOaf

    BigOldOaf Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2011 Massachusetts

    Me and a couple friends are flying out to the west coast in August and are planning to drive from Seattle to Portland, and down to San Francisco. Definite stops we're planning to make are Deschutes, Hair of the Dog, and probably Anchor. I'm looking for brewery suggestions and craft-centric bars to fill out the trip! And as blasphemous as it sounds, if anyone has suggestions for quality wineries along the way I would appreciate that as well. Thanks in advance guys! Cheers!
     
  2. fuhkyou

    fuhkyou Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2013 Idaho

    Aside from recommending Upright in Portland as a must, I can say I did the NW Oregon Pinot Noir tour and was not very impressed.
    Now when you get into northern Cal... wine gets quite interesting.
    The BV winery in the Napa valley (their Carneros Pinot Noir was excellent) had some memorable tastes, but honestly that whole area had some impressive offerings including some interesting Ports.
     
  3. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    There are some great wineries in Oregon! I highly recommend going to Soter in the Willamette Valley.
     
  4. nattomoto

    nattomoto Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2014 Oregon

    I can't disagree with this assessment of Oregon Pinot enough. Willamette Valley Pinots blow most California Pinots out of the water. And the 2012 vintages that were just released are on point.

    In the valley, I recommend tasting at Trisaetum, Raptor Ridge, Adelsheim, Brick House.
     
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  5. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    From Seattle I'd recommend at least hitting Fremont, Reuben's (may not be possible depending on day), and Black Raven for breweries. A couple beer bars / shops would be good as well: Brouwer's, Sixgill, Pinebox Noble Fir all have great tap lists (there are many others; I'm just giving some "greatest hits"). For bottle shops check Bottleworks, Chucks, Beer Junction and, if you make it out to Black Raven, Malt & Vine. All these spots have good tap lists too.

    There's something of a dead zone brewery wise between Seattle and Portland - I know, people are going to disagree, but there aren't any "must stops".

    Portland has it's own thread to check out but I'd say Upright, HotD, Cascade, and Deschutes are the must hit breweries. There's a big second tier: Commons, Base Camp, Ecliptic, Hopworks, Gigantic, Rogue, Laurelwood, Lompoc, and on and on. For shops Belmont Station and Beer Mongers are probably the cream of the crop. They have good tap lists too. I really like Hop & Vine and Seraveza as well; both near each other. I think Hop & Vine is a small bottle shop but IMHO always yields something surprising. Good tap lists at these spots as well. Imperial and Tin Bucket are good spots for growlers - also have bottles and solid taps. Imperial counter pressure fills, so that's a plus. For bars, Apex / Horse Brass / Baileys won't let you down.

    If you have time to venture east to Hood River you won't regret it. A nice drive and a beautiful area. Pfriem, Double Mountain, Logsdon, Solera, and Full Sail are out there along with Volcanic Bottle shop.

    If you venture West, it's also a beautiful drive ... and though the options are thinner, you do have De Garde and Pelican in Tillamook. Or keep going to Pacific City and hit the Pelican brew pub there. A nice environment for a drink. You could also head up north to Astoria for Fort George. Nice spots but, unfortunately, this is probably a lot of driving for a lower yield of spots.

    If you can head out of your way to Bend when head to CA, it's worth it. Boneyard, 10 Barrel, Crux, Silver Moon, Bend Brewing, more Deschutes, Worthy, Ale Apothecary and on and on. Broken Top Bottle Shop and Platypus are your good shops. I've never been, but I have some friends down there that really like Crows Feet Commons - Bikes, Skis, Coffee, Beer. Sounds like a VERY Bend sort of place ... and hits my sweet spots.
     
  6. NWer

    NWer Pooh-Bah (2,145) Mar 10, 2009 Washington
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    I don't know how long we'll get away with this since this is a beer site but I'll get in my plug for Willamette Valley Pinot's. Some of my favorites are Sokol Blosser, WillaKenzie & St. Innocent. Napa & Sonoma Appellations are great too but for Pinot, Willamette is best in the world in many opinions including mine.
     
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  7. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    In Seattle, I think Naked City and Big Time are must hit breweries, and you're not likely to see much of their beer outside of their breweries.

    That said, I'm going to suggest coming North for at least 2days/1night. Skookum, Kulshan, Flyers, Anacortes, Boundary Bay, Skagit, Chuckanut, North Fork and North Sound are all worth your time.
     
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  8. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    The Commons belongs firmly in the first tier imo; personally, for qc, customer service and price I place it well above HotD.

    cheers
     
  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Obvioiusly, opinions vary on this issue. Personally, I'm a big fan of good pinot wherever it comes from (Russian River, Caneros, Santa Cruz, the Anderson Valley, the Williamette Valley, etc.). However, stylistically, I think most would agree that Willliamette Valley pinots, on balance, tend to have better acidity and are often lighter in color and on the palate than many of the pinots from N. Cal. So it's probably going to be a question of style preferences in terms of what the OP may prefer (if you read the Wine Spectator, Advocate, Enthusiast, etc., there are wineries producing high quality, high scoring wines from both areas).

    As for recommendations, I'll make a few as well, but there are a lot of great wineries in the Valley, and I can't think of too many that you can go wrong with (though I think some places and wines are overpriced for what you're getting). As nattomotto mentioned, the 2012 vintage is one of the best vintages for pinot in years (I would argue since 02, but certainly at least since 08), so your timing should be pretty good as well (though there will likely still be a lot of the 2011's and 2010's around as well).

    Everyone on this thread has referenced pinot noir, and in terms of reds, that's certainly what the area is best known for. However, there are some wineries making pretty good syrah as well, and there are also a number of wineries making some interesting whites. Anyway, in addition to the wineries already mentioned, other places to consider include Ponzi (the tasting room in Newbergy is a lot of fun, and they usually pour a few guest winery wines as well), Argyle (the tasting room gets hit pretty hard by the tourist crowd, but the wines are good), Domaine Drouhin (great view), Domaine Serence (but see my comment about overpriced wine), Cristom, Bethel Heights, Chehalem, etc. Cristom, Ponzi and Chehalem also have very good whites as well (am a big fan of the pinot gris from Chehalem), and Cristom makes a solid syrah and viognier. If pinot isn't your bag, then I'd also recommend Tyrus Evans in Carlton. Tyrus Evans is essentially the Washington label for Ken Wright (they make great pinot as well, but the winery generally isn't open to the public - however, their single vineyard pinots are available to taste and purchase at the Tyrus Evans tasting room, which is open most of the year), and there you can sample and purchase some very nice syrahs, cab francs and bordeaux style blends. They also have a very good pinot blanc, viognier and chard, when it's available (the wines are limited and sell out fairly quick). If you're into Italian varietals (reds), then there's also Cana's Feast to consider. They're a good source for sangiovese, barbera, dolcetto, etc.

    As the OP probably knows (but I'll mention it anyway), the Williamette Valley is roughly an hour drive south of Portland (depending where you're staying), and it's not exactly right on the way if you're heading south to California via I-5. However, if you want to sample some of Oregon's finest pinot without leaving Portland, then consider stopping by Oregon Wines on Broadway. They tyically have around 40 different pinots at various price points that you can order by the glass, sample size pour or bottle (they also do flights). Just be aware that the women working there are completely irreverent and their language can get a bit, ahem, colorful at times. However, the wine selection is outstanding (they're also a botttle shop), and their prices reasonable for what you're getting (IMHO). They also typically have a few whites on offer (try the sauvignon blanc from Patty Green if it's available), as well as a few Washington selections from the Columbia Valley and Walla Walla. OWOB has the added benefit of being no more than a 5 minute walk to Bailey's as well.

    Lastly, a couple of things to keep in mind. Almost every place in the Valley charges for their tasting these days, and the cost at some places can get a bit steep (I'm looking at you Domaine Serene, Penner Ash and Bergstrom). Also, while places like Ponzi, Argyle, Sokol Blosser and Chehalem are open pretty much all the time, many tasting rooms have fairly limited hours and/or close during the winter months. So it's never a bad idea to call in advance, especially if you're hoping to visit some relatively small, out of the way place (like Shea, Patty Green or Beaux Frerer). Anyway, good luck and have fun!
     
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  10. msubulldog25

    msubulldog25 Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2005 Oregon

    Alright, alright... beer-centric on BeerAdvocate!
    Really great info, but I think the wine stuff is sufficiently covered :wink:

    Cheers,
    Brian
     
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  11. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    In retrospect, that was a bad call on my part. I just didn't know how accepted that opinion was since they haven't been around too long and don't make any real "whales" yet along the lines of, say, Fantasia. I'm sure they'll come ...
     
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  12. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    I haven't visited most of these but I'd put a solid thumbs up behind Chuckanut, Boundary Bay, and Kulshan ... all in close proximity to one another.
     
  13. ExVashonGujy

    ExVashonGujy Pooh-Bah (2,114) Mar 7, 2013 Washington
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    Ashland in southern Oregon makes a nice stop on this trip: the Caldera brewery is excellent. Ashland is a pretty good place to overnight before heading down to northern CA. You can then spend the morning driving south, and arrive for lunch at Sierra Nevada in Chico, or if you go off to the west, you can cut over and hit Russian River or a lot of other great breweries in that area.
     
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  14. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I don't think a brewery needs to make whales in order for them to be excellent (though I would argue that Ortucky Common, Plum Bretta, Braam, Bier Royale are just as good as any sours in the state).

    I place the commons (especially their sours and german styles) in the mix with any like producer in the state.
     
  15. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    I have been unlucky enough to miss Braam, Plum Bretta, and Bier Royale. Ortucky was great ... hope it wasn't a draft only one and done, but I suspect it was.
     
  16. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Bier Royale hit Washington. It was fantastic.
     
  17. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Full disclosure, i claim major homerism as I live 1 block from the brewery and try everything they have.

    I think Braam (sour stout with blackberries) has been my favorite they have put out. So incredible, I hope they make it again.
     
  18. Scooch

    Scooch Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 Illinois

    A Beercation, from Seattle to San Fran right, and no one has yet mentioned Russian River Brewery as a must? Or have I missed something? I would plan to spend the night somewhere either in Santa Rosa or nearby, maybe even Healdsburg (Bear Republic brewery), or even Lagunitas in Petaluma, but I can't imagine not going to Russian River Brewery at least once and suckling from the holy teat.
     
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  19. BigOldOaf

    BigOldOaf Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2011 Massachusetts

    That's funny because Russian River was my number one to visit and I forgot to list it in my original post. All those years of smokin' doobs I guess haha

    Thanks for all the suggestions guys, especially the wine since I know nothing about it! Keep it coming!
     
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