West Coast IPA Thread

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by RaulMondesi, Feb 23, 2020.

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  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,862) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Did you or anyone else remember their 30th (20th?) anniversary dipa? bombers with the crazy shiny rainbow label? that thing was a real treat
     
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  2. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Pundit (925) Jun 23, 2013 California

    I’m starting to feel optimistic to be honest... it seems like many people are requesting WCIPAs again, and it seems like many places are making more of them again.

    I hope Balance is restored in the universe.
     
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  3. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Pundit (925) Jun 23, 2013 California

    It’s gotten better over the past year... I think both Relax and Retreat are solid!
     
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  4. bcm119

    bcm119 Savant (1,101) Feb 17, 2001 California
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    Not specifically, no. But I've always appreciated AVB for their novel (at the time) blending of biting, grapefruit find hops with supple, borderline English malt flavors. Some of their dipas were so malty they were almost barley wines. But they pulled it off.
     
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  5. beerdoggie

    beerdoggie Aspirant (262) Jul 9, 2016 California
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    I'm sad my local Trader Joe's stopped carrying Hop Ottin', that was one of my favorites from 10 years ago, and was always worth a revisit every few months...
     
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  6. beermeplz

    beermeplz Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2015 California

    This batch of fieldwork pulp free is tasting pretty great..
     
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  7. SoNiC21

    SoNiC21 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 California

    Hello, LA is just amazing, if you haven’t had it your missing out.
     
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  8. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (878) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    A four pack of the OG Enjoy By, St Archer Mosaic, Tongue Tickles, or Cafe Racer 15 would easily sell for 25 bucks these days.
     
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  9. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (878) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    I will check Relax, last time I had it it was a resiny, bitter mess with no redeeming qualities other than appearance. So far for affordable haze Madewest simply wrecks the competition pricewise: 9.99 a 4-pack of very solid haze. I liked it better than B West and Alchemist side by side.

    Modern Times is second, but so inconsistent I don't bother with them anymore, unless they are on tap. New Belgium is surprisingly solid in this terrain.

    For WC, I am having an Amalgamator right now, which is my go-to, but this particular batch is a bit of a letdown (4-14). Dank, in a dry weedy, dull way, but lacking some of the brighter aromatics of it. Not the best batch, but still very good though. Mayberry is also regularly tasty, though boring.

    And Madewest Pale when fresh...
     
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  10. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Grand Pooh-Bah (5,209) Dec 11, 2006 California
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    Whatever happened to Beachwood Melrose? That was a beautiful WC IPA.
     
  11. UnknownKoger

    UnknownKoger Pooh-Bah (1,871) Jul 9, 2010 California
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    They have (had?) it on for crowler fills
     
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  12. Sebowski

    Sebowski Zealot (613) Jan 11, 2010 California

    I love getting a hand-pull of all their stuff at Toro whenever I am up there, but being owned by Heineken doesn't make me want to go out of the way to give them my money.
     
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  13. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,862) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    only 50% though, so you can still give them a little money
     
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  14. walterfredo

    walterfredo Savant (1,032) Nov 22, 2011 California
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    I do not fully understand the ownership thing between them, but it is my understanding that Heineken purchased 50% of Lagunitas. Some time later Lagunitas purchased a 50% stake in Moonlight. I don't think that necessarily means that Heineken has a stake in Moonlight. I guess there is a lot of grey area there though.

    From the release after Lagunitas took stake in Moonlight...
    "The purchases were all funded by Lagunitas and did not require any capital outlay from Heineken"
     
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  15. moosington

    moosington Zealot (543) Mar 29, 2009 California

    Yeah, most, if not all brewers play with (or at least should) water profiles/brewing salts for each style. It would be a mistake not to as no single water source is perfect for all the styles many of them are churning out. Building up from reverse osmosis or distilled water is the best move for full control Distilled obviously more so in the homebrew realm.
     
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  16. Sebowski

    Sebowski Zealot (613) Jan 11, 2010 California

    Since then though Heineken bought out the other 50% of Lagunitas and now has full ownership. So I guess that means they own 50% of Moonlight. For what it is worth, rate beer has Moonlight listed as owned by Heineken.

    Don't get me wrong. Heineken is definitely a lesser evil than ABInbev and Miller Coors. Or even Constellation. But like I said. I'm not going out of my way to either give them money or boycott them. I really do love drinking those cask pours as my start at Toro SF. And right now during this new normal I am being very hyper local with my money.
     
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  17. Sebowski

    Sebowski Zealot (613) Jan 11, 2010 California

    Back on topic....

    I am loving this Blazing World revamped recipe! Super West Coast!
     
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  18. walterfredo

    walterfredo Savant (1,032) Nov 22, 2011 California
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    my bad, did not know that!
     
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  19. OTB

    OTB Pooh-Bah (1,779) Sep 2, 2011 California
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    A couple reason's there is a major resurgence of the WCIPA style IMHO. One, revamped hop and grain bill's and ratios's, gone are the dark malty syrupy old school beers of old and Two, I truly believe that we're all getting absolutely burnt out with thick sweet hazy IPA's and are looking for big impactful refreshing flavorful hoppy beers that we can drink a few of, I love me some well made haze but after 16 oz of super aggressively hopped chewy DIPA's I need to switch it up.

    Cheers,
     
  20. StonedRaider

    StonedRaider Zealot (722) Oct 25, 2007 California
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    I enjoyed it...but I preferred the original version. Hard to pass up when I see it fresh though.
     
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