What beers do you feel are overrated/overhyped?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Chuck2319, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    I searched the forums to make sure this wasn't posted in a while (not since 2015), so here goes; I recently traded for a beer that carries quite a bit of hype and the world class ratings to boot. After digging in, I was underwhelmed and relatively unimpressed. Maybe I became a cicerone overnight without taking an exam? Maybe I expect too much? Or, maybe the beer just isn't as good as the hype-train would lead one to believe/expect? Either way, I wanted to hear stories from others that have had a similar experience. Cheers!
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  2. SpruceFish

    SpruceFish Aspirant (210) Jan 18, 2009 Washington

    Any beer that people claim have a "secondary value" over $50
  3. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    well, that encompasses quite a few then :wink:
  4. brutalfarce

    brutalfarce Disciple (351) Mar 23, 2018 Connecticut
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    I just recently had Dinner from Maine from a buddy who went to Maine and was nice enough to bring some back. Had a beer share and made sure to drink that first so my palate wasn't a mess and...was not impressed. I know I'll get blasted but I've enjoyed other Maine stuff more. Maybe went in too hyped its a 4.63avg on Untappd but eh..was good won't say it wasn't but 4.63?
  5. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina

    Anything Prarie, they're ok, I don't think they're really all that special. An ok beer is worth half their cost at best, not $10.
  6. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Savant (919) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I think NEIPAs are overhyped as a style. Is there a reason you don't want to name the beer you traded for?
  7. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (3,603) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Considering some Evil Twin bottles cost $40 off the shelf, that's not a bold statement for some.
  8. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    I was waiting for someone to ask LOL! It was FoB4
  9. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    I don't think NEIPAs are overhyped, BUT, I do feel that it's very difficult for one to stand out from the crowd. here in Chicago, we have tons of breweries making amazing NEIPAs. Similar to my FoB4 being overhyped, the 2 TH IPAs I've had were also a bit of a letdown.
  10. brutalfarce

    brutalfarce Disciple (351) Mar 23, 2018 Connecticut
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    Fundamental Observation is a beer I have really wanted to try
  11. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    It's good, just don't pay/trade through the nose for it. There are shelfies here in Chi I like better :confused:
  12. Shanex

    Shanex Meyvn (1,373) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Pilsner Urquel - it’s good on a summer evening just not worthy of all the hype.

    Trappiste Rochefort 10 - pretty damn good but St Bernardus 12 kick its ass.

    Most if not every Cantillon - again I like 3F better for a similar price.

    Chimay Bleue - I like their triple better.

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  13. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,938) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina

    There is a bit of sameness. I love Resident Culture beers , and I had fresh hop Hop Brain on tap at the brewery and I bought a few cans, I preferred the canned versions. Kinda surprised me, the taste was there but the head was dead, could be the way they sanitize perhaps. But most of the beers I brIng home I Like the canned version a bit more.,
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  14. Hoos78

    Hoos78 Aspirant (252) Mar 3, 2015 Ohio

    Ooohh, I’ll have to re-assess this head to head. I have to say that I buy Rochefort 10 5 to 1 over St. B.
  15. Chuck2319

    Chuck2319 Initiate (98) Apr 13, 2017 Arizona

    Good to know!!!
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  16. Shanex

    Shanex Meyvn (1,373) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Both are great - preference goes for St. B

    OP: feels like my post above was more along the line of the controversial beer opinion thread.
  17. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Poo-Bah (2,080) Dec 11, 2006 California

    My first sip of FO floored me so hard I thought I was sitting next to Tupac.
  18. BayAreaJoe

    BayAreaJoe Savant (927) Nov 23, 2017 California
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    Most BBA beers.
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  19. BeanBump

    BeanBump Devotee (449) Dec 14, 2016 California

    Id agree with Cantillon. Good stuff, not worth $60 per bottle.
  20. JayWhitson

    JayWhitson Champion (870) Feb 25, 2015 Montana
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    Got to try Morning Delight at GABF last year. Coffee Maple Achromatic from Weldwerks blew it away on nose and flavor.
  21. bubseymour

    bubseymour Poo-Bah (2,519) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland

    Agree with Morning Delight.
  22. BeardedWalrus

    BeardedWalrus Disciple (326) Jun 5, 2018 North Carolina

    For a bomber or 750ml? The most i've paid is $55 for a Magnum of St Bernardus 12, and i only paid that because it's basically 5 glasses of my favorite beer in a really neat bottle.
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  23. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,647) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Rochefort 10 for me as well! Ages better, too- that beer with like 5 years on it is something special.

    Neither of them beats Pannepot Reserva, though :stuck_out_tongue::sunglasses:.
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  24. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (6,310) Sep 24, 2007 Vatican City

    Any of the Murkbombs. The beers have proven to be low on flavor and personality. Highly rated by folks who grew up on "juice" boxes, and not actual juice.
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  25. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,603) Mar 12, 2009 New York

    Ooooh, can I shoe horn myself into this stereotype? I enjoy a well made NEIPA. And two of my three children were born after juice boxes were invented.:grin:
  26. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (886) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Although I think the popularity of NEIPAs, Milkshake IPAs, and super fruited goses is bordering on ridiculous, pastry stouts have to take the cake. Pun very intended. Especially when we're talking about the BBA ones, as the price tends to go up exponentially. If I wanted a spiced booze bomb, I'd just chug Captain instead of drinking beer.
  27. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Meyvn (1,132) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    "Murkbombs" - That's funny and quite apt.

    I might be waaayyy wrong, but I'm under the impression that a craft beer fan of, say 15 years ago, would drainpour a 'murkbomb' on sight and would be astounded that somebody would brew such a thing on purpose.
  28. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (886) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Probably, as murky beer is a sign of poor brewing techniques. Notice that I said "murky" and not "hazy".

    Even though I'm aware of the science behind them, I STILL think that making the clearest beer possible is ALWAYS the best practice. It just so happens that sometimes the clearest beer possible is still pretty hazy.
  29. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (6,310) Sep 24, 2007 Vatican City

    Agreed. And yet, here we are. The damn things sell $20-ish a 4pack.
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  30. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Initiate (131) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin

    My best examples are in line with others' here. Agree with OP on FO but was batch 3 for me. Also agree with Mornin Delight which I had batch 4 of. Ironically I only had FO by trading one of my MDs. Lol
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  31. Lahey

    Lahey Disciple (391) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I don't think I've been very happy with any bomber over 25 bucks or any 12 oz bottle over 6 or 7. At a certain point, I just don't feel the extra money buys that much better of a beer for the styles I enjoy.
  32. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (3,603) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I've seen some of the big name US online beer stores sell Fou Foune for $95 to $125. I think the more standard bottles fetch around $30 to 60 depending on how much mark-up the retailer opts to take. Magnums of Cantillon can go up quickly from there. $30 seems to be the starting point for 750mL bottles and the MSRP, but kinda like rare bottles of Pappy van Winkle, very few stores will charge the suggested retail since they can easily grab some extra cash by charging more.

    For what it's worth, their flagship 750mL bottles sell for about 10 to 15 Euros at their brewery. It's possible that more limited bottles like Fou Foune sell for 20 Euros, but regardless, we're talking a massive mark-up once they leave Cantillon's walls, and an even bigger mark-up when they cross the ocean and reach American soil.

    I've seen 375mL of flagship Cantillon beer selling for 20 Euro just around the corner from the source.... Yikes.
  33. mambossa

    mambossa Disciple (388) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    I think their IPAs are pretty overrated, and their sours and wild ales are decent. But I can’t hate on the majority of their stouts. I’ve enjoyed almost every one of them.

    Same with Jackie O’s. Not impressed by their hoppy stuff, but damn their stouts and wild ales are on point.

    I definitely wouldn’t label either overrated entirely, but I can see where you’re coming from.
  34. papposilenus

    papposilenus Meyvn (1,206) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire

    OMG, it took twelve entire minutes for someone to make it about NEIPA's.
  35. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Poo-Bah (3,895) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    How was this "proven"?
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  36. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (6,310) Sep 24, 2007 Vatican City

    Circumstantial evidence. They seem to generally be more popular with folks closer to the legal drinking age, than with folks who have been drinking beer for decades. Trends and fads most generally start with the younger folks and migrate up the age scale.. what do you suppose was the lunch boxes and fridges of folks who are now in the 21-31 y.o. age bracket, orange juice or Five Alive?
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  37. scream

    scream Meyvn (1,124) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin

    I am amazed that there has not been more mention of other well known beers. We all have different palates and beers that work for us whether or not they do for someone else or not.

    Therefore I give you my top 2 over=hyped beers. I think they are both decent but not worthy of the adulation they get.

    1. Pliny the Elder
    2. Bell's Two Hearted

    Both are decent but...

    Now I will duck and await the responses.

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  38. Junior

    Junior Defender (624) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    For me it was Hunahpu's Imperial Stout. Luckily i also picked up some of their other stout's, which I found much better.
  39. cmiller4642

    cmiller4642 Aspirant (295) Aug 17, 2013 West Virginia

    I think NE IPAs are really good, but too many people focus on them being the end all of craft beer, and they're really not.

    I enjoy a bit of "weight" behind my beer that the NE IPAs lack sometimes. So it's a nice appetizer but usually a big barrel aged stout or something is definitely the main course.

    As far as completely overrated beers go I would go with Dogfish Head 120 minute IPA. Yes it's fun to try or have as a one off once or twice a year, but it is nothing I would seek out on a regular basis. I usually pick one single bottle up around the holidays. My store actually had a fresh shipment of it last week and I walked past it without even considering it.

    Regular BCBS is pretty overrated too honestly. It's alright, but pretty expensive. If you live in the midwest region Black Note comes out at the same time and you get 4 bottles of better beer for $24.99 as opposed to 1 bottle for $11.99. I'm sure on the west coast and NE the same holds true for other beers. I usually pick one up just for picking it ups sake but I won't kill myself if I can't find it this year.
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  40. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (3,603) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Pliny is the second beer I pursued when I started trading (BCBS was the first, and it hit the target right). Pliny the Elder was also my first bottle share. I invited over a close friend who also wanted to try Pliny the Elder. We popped open that awkward bottle size, made our pours, and then sipped. I think it took us a minute or two of silence, contemplation, and eventually realization, before we both started talking again, and we agreed right off the bat, "it's good, but not the damn good" we had heard about it.

    Still, I'd love to try it again, but it was my first disappointment within beer.

    I do order Two Hearted when I'm at a new bar and I don't fancy trying anything new. Good standard beer there, as is Pliny. Neither are beers I'd base a trade on at this point though.