What Causes This?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Larry82052, Apr 17, 2017.

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  1. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    We were invited to some friends house,they looked forward to trying my beer and the German Bock,after opened just keep overflowing out of the bottle,finally pouring into a glass they love it but how embarrassing.What's the fix to this?

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  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Over carbonation causes that. It's caused by one or more of the following...

    - Too much priming sugar
    - Uneven mixing of the priming sugar
    - Bottling before fermentation has finished
    - Infection
     
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  3. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Opening up the bottle when it's on the warmer side exacerbates the problem as well
     
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  4. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Almost every brew I have ever made has done that regardless of how much/little priming sugar I have used. And I think I stay fairly clean/sanitized. Most of my beer is in primary for at least 2 weeks, and I use a hydrometer and see no change on these last few when I bottle. But I have experience different "levels" of it and yea, being colder helps.
     
  5. phideltashaggy

    phideltashaggy Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2010 Tennessee

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  6. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    No 'after the fact' solution is ideal (that's why they're usually called 'workarounds'), but you could try lowering the fridge to near freezing to minimize, though perhaps not eliminate, the problem while you research a real solution for future batches.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Larry (@Larry82052), what was the exact batch size (how many gallons of beer) and how much priming sugar did you use? Did you use corn sugar?

    Cheers!
     
  8. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I never had that issue in any of my bottled homebrew (before I kegged) except a Hefeweizen that was over-carbonated to 4+ vol's CO2.

    A friend had some issues with that, due to uneven mixing of the priming sugar solution. Some fine, others overflow upon opening. That would be my guess if it isn't infection.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My method is to add the sugar solution to the bottom of the bottling bucket, siphon the beer into the bottling bucket and then once full I mix it very gently using my racking cane to ensure that the sugar solution is evenly mixed. This process works for me - I obtain even carbonation in all bottles.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    Well by the input of my beer 5 gallons at 61 degrees and it being a German Bock I should be somewhere around 4.4 ozs of corn sugar is what I use,but I have been doing 5 ozs because of old instructions sticking with me.But I will try 4.4 and see how that does!! Thanks everyone!! Thanks Jack!!
     
  11. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    You know I forgot something,,.I was leaving the impression that all the bottles were doing that in a 5 gallon batch,but its only a few bottles and boy howdy they wont quit over flowing, I sanitize well 2 or 3 min (never rise)My time in the bottle is 2 weeks like recipe calls for as well, I mix my priming sugar well,but every once in a while beer goes all over the porch??Matter fact drinking one now and it opened great,never foamed up but just a tiny bit, Great head on the beer tells me it should be ok you know,but?
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That narrows it down. Variable carbonation between bottles is one or both of...

    - Uneven mixing of the priming sugar
    - Infection
     
  13. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    Where could the infection be coming from? Cause I know my sugar is easily stirred in for 2 to three min?Thanks VikeMan!!
     
  14. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Larry, my money would be on uneven mixing of the sugar. What is your process here? Do you boil the sugar in some water, cool it down, and then add it to the bottling bucket? (This would be my recommended approach.) Or do you add the solid sugar directly to the bottling bucket?
     
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Infections can come from exposure to bugs anywhere in the process following the boil.

    But the fact that it's only some bottles means that if it is infection, it's probably due to inadequately sanitized bottles or caps.
     
  16. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    :rolling_eyes: There's a question for the ages!
     
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  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    In my experience corn sugar and table sugar do equally well. Some of the priming calculators suggest one will carbonate a little more than the other but it would not lead to a gross difference. My guess is you know this already. Maybe you were thinking corn sugar vs. some other sugar source like dme or honey would be important to know if using a priming calculator.
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And that was exactly why I asked that clarifying question.

    Cheers!
     
  19. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    My money is on uneven dispersion of the primimg sugar between bottles. It just happens so often to new brewers more so than infections. How do you incorporate your priming sugar into your beer, Larry?
     
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  20. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    If you have some hop debris/ other gunk in your bottles that can cause it to foam too

    5 oz in 5 us gallons sounds like a lot to me, most I have ever used is 4 oz in 6 us gallons. That's very well carbed, of course it also depends on the temp of your beer post fermentation too
     
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