What does the term "Farmhouse" mean to you?

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  1. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    So with a couple threads recently discussing upcoming farmhouse breweries, I'm curious what everybody defines "farmhouse" as anyway when it comes to beer style?

    Personally, I had always considered a farmhouse beer to be a saison and that's about it. Lately there are lots of beers using the term farmhouse in their name but I'm not sure they resemble a saison that much. Does simply having some minor similarity to a saison (in brewing process or taste) or being made in a barn/farmhouse/rural setting qualify?

    Maybe I'm being silly and over analyzing (beer lovers would never do that right?) but it seems the lines are getting blurry. Of course these blurred lines apply to many other styles as well
     
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  2. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Same here. To me farmhouse = saison
     
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  3. doppletheGOAT

    doppletheGOAT Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2012 Texas

    Saison orientated beer for sure but to me it should have a very earthy/yeasty/funky taste to it as well as a very hay like taste to it. Yep, it should taste like hay (thus living up to the name "farmhouse") but some of the best Farmhouse ales I've had don't necessarily taste like this.

    Overall, I think it's just another term for a Saison which is another variation of a pale ale.
     
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  4. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I typically associate it with saison, so whatever characteristics you'd expect from a saison are what you'd expect from a "farmhouse" beer.
     
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  5. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    It's basically just a buzzword at this point.
     
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  6. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    really....
     
  7. rxeight

    rxeight Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Illinois

    A type of dwelling located on a plot of land primarily used for agriculture.
     
  8. Mongrel

    Mongrel Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Maryland

    To me it's like a more liberal definition of saisons. Saisons' brothers, sisters and cousins, if you will. To include some wild ales and brett'd beers that still have a light, rustic and yeasty profile.
     
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  9. doppletheGOAT

    doppletheGOAT Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2012 Texas


    According to most definitions, yeah. In fact the best farmhouse ales I've had were quite hoppy. However, not in a bitter way, the hop profile is usually much more smooth and drinkable when compared to most of your extremely bitter Pale Ales. The other difference is of course, the funky yeast taste you get from this style. But overall, Saison/farmhouse is very similar to Belgian Pale Ales.
     
  10. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    saison. or just delicious.
     
  11. Jeremyleeb

    Jeremyleeb Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2014 California
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    Old McDonald had a farm.... Seriously
     
  12. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    Opinion Alert: Farmhouse breweries should use local wild yeast and (if required) bacteria for fermentation.

    Doesn't have to be spontaneously fermented; it could be cultured local wild yeast. That is my definition of farmhouse ale. I'm looking at you, @jesterkingbeer
     
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  13. 3sheets2wind

    3sheets2wind Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2013 Texas
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    Second what wrongtone said. It can't be made with the generic saison yeast that laboratories package and sell. It must be your own strain and it must be funky. Plenty of brewers do saisons, because they use some wheat and candi sugar and add coriander to a pale ale, but that is not a farmhouse beer, even if they referment with brett.
     
  14. SierraJosh

    SierraJosh Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2013 California

    Logsdon, the picture on the bottle.
     
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  15. augiecarton

    augiecarton Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 New Jersey

    around here there are a bunch more using the name because NY has created a new license with specific farm parameters. People with this license are using the name.

    Farm brewery license. 1. Any person may apply to the authority
    for a farm brewery license as provided for in this section to brew beer
    within this state for sale. Such application shall be in writing and
    verified and shall contain such information as the authority shall
    require. Such application shall be accompanied by a check or draft for
    the amount required by this article for such license. If the authority
    grants the application, it shall issue a license in such form as shall
    be determined by its rules. Such license shall contain a description of
    the licensed premises and in form and in substance shall be a license to
    the person therein specifically designated to brew beer in the premises
    therein specifically licensed.

    and so on http://ypdcrime.com/abc/article4.htm#a51-a
     
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  16. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I always envisioned "farmhouse" as what a day in the life of Dany at Fantome must be like.

    Something along the lines of waking up, frolicing through the meadows and forest gaining inspiration (and ingrediants) for the brew day. Then, brewing and tossing the wort into open vessels of a barn at 90 degrees and letting mother nature take care of the rest.

    Then I learned that my brewing hero Dany of Fantome doesnt even like beer...


    Now I hate farms, houses, meadows and beer.
     
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  17. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Farmhouse Brewery to me means, "we're gonna throw brett at everything and charge $12.99 a 750ml."
     
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  18. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    Ideally, Dupont-y. Commonly, pale Belgian-ish.

    At best, it indicates the use of saison yeast, traditional fermentation methods (wild yeast and bacteria can come into play, or just taking as much time as the core yeast strain wants and needs to ferment properly), and high quality malt/unmalted grains.

    At worst, it means the brewer used a nominally Belgian yeast strain and pushed it until it got really estery. Probably some bubblegum shit, plus too much coriander.

    See also: breweries that are on/incorporate actual farm land, buildings, or processes (i.e., they grow their own hops). Y'know, like Hill Farmstead—is it a farmhouse brewery? Well, kind of. Yes and no. Yes?
     
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  19. Drew88

    Drew88 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2013 New Jersey

    I always think of a Belgian style beer. Not sure if that is remotely accurate but, that's what I think of.
     
  20. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Frocking through the meadows? That's a new one.
     
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