What is a snob, exactly?

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  1. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    If they dont see commericals for it on tv then they think it must suck.
     
  2. fritts211

    fritts211 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2011 Tennessee

    Yes. And it is our God-sent mission to openly mock and deride every one of those inferior life forms. Their palates are inferior, and they are the damned spot on our beer utopia that must be thrust out! Out damn spot!
     
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  3. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Each brand has its devoted following, but I don't think you can call them snobs; just like you couldn't call [the same people, more often than not] pick-up truck snobs.

    There are also many who think that [insert slightly-higher-end macro beer] is the best beer ever made...I've encountered this with Yuengling and Stella particularly.
    The closest thing to snobbishness I've noticed would be the visceral, righteous rage some macro drinkers seem to become possessed by when I admit I don't enjoy the same bland fizzy corn-water they love; they seem almost insulted, as if they think "it's good enough for me, why isn't it good enough for you?" And then I usually get called a hipster/snob/etc..
    If everyone was eating tv dinners, and I decide to eat a real cooked meal, would that make me a pretentious hipster snob? I wouldn't think so; I still can't figure out why macro drinkers are so defensive in that way when presented with people who don't share their tastes.
     
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  4. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    That's the center of it for most macro drinkers. They're not in it for flavor, they just want a taste-neutral refreshing beverage that's vaguely reminiscent of beer. I don't have a problem with that, to each their own...but what gets me is when the same people scoff at craft beer as pretentious, just because we prefer beer with flavor.
     
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  5. kolschboy

    kolschboy Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2003 North Carolina

    Actually...since your micro is far less processed and less refined than their macro, you could argue that their beer is the fancy one.
     
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  6. TBYoung

    TBYoung Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2013 Pennsylvania

    When i help out my father in law at his beer store i have seen these people, I wouldn't really classify them as snobs more stuck in their was as in i like what i like why should i try anything different. For example earlier this week duquesene pilsner and straub brewing held sampling sessions. I stopped in to see both of them because i knew them from a few years back The duke guy had regular duquesne pilsner, light, and the straub guy was promoting straub Maibock and amber. Now a majority of his customer base was the bmc light beer types older folk and people in their early 20's. Most of the older folks mostly men would not give them the time of day claiming that bud or coors light etc is the best beer in the world. A few did try but it seemed to me the younger customers were more open minded. BMC does sampling sessions too but they use pretty 21 y.o. girls to promote miller 64 redds or bud black crown or what ever. The guys from duke and straub were just the regular salesman A younger guy and a old pudgy fellow. And its funny to me because everyone tries the beer If some pretty young thing with perfect tits and ass is handing it to them. Which of course is nothing to do with the brand or perceived quality of the beer they are promoting its just the old farts (and some young horny guys) that wouldn't have a chance in hell with these girls getting a chance to stare at the girls tits or her perfect ass. I swear these girls could be handing them engine degreaser in a cup and they would say its the best beer in the world.
     
  7. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Yes, I work with a BMC snob. He says Guinness cans have marbles in them.
     
  8. MooseBoose

    MooseBoose Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2007 Wisconsin

    X 10. Hear this all the time in some form.
     
  9. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I think all of us have run into those who refer to BMC as "real beer" or "man's beer" and heard disparaging remarks about "fancy" craft beer.

    Snobbery is not exclusive to the better beer world.
     
  10. Vonstein15

    Vonstein15 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Ohio

    i always find the main difference craft snobs and BMC is that we will drink theirs but they stick their nose up at ours.not all but most do.
     
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  11. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I have an uncle who drinks nothing but Bud, he thought about changing once they sold out to InBev but never did. When I go to his house I drink Bud cause that's what he has, when he comes to my house I make a special trip to get him Bud because he will bitch mercilessly if he is forced to drink my beer, even if its mild like an Oktoberfest or Bass. Who's the fuckin snob???!!! Definitely way more bmc snobs out there than we think, great post and point!
     
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  12. Rohkey

    Rohkey Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2013 Michigan

    Yes, there are certainly BMC snobs out there. I had a friend who would only get things like Black Crown or other 'full flavor' adjuncts and would mock people who got Bud Lite, Miller Lite, etc. He would routinely insult some of our friends that drank Bud Lite Lime because he said he was a bitch drink and too low in alcohol (meanwhile I'm sitting here drinking something most likely 8-12%, but I'm not saying anything).

    Also I have a subset of hockey friends that all like a particular BMC brand and they always call one another out over their preferences. Two incidents come to mind. The first was when I designated myself to supply the beer for my friend's bachelor party, and went something like this -

    Me: "Hey Fusco said he was fine with Bud, but I'd prefer to get something better than that. What do you think?"
    Him: "Haha hell yeah man, Bud sucks...are you a Labatt man too? Best beer around, tell Fusco he's a punk."

    The other incident was a few days ago when another one of these guys posted a Facebook pic of their birthday dinner with some Heinekens on the table. I told him it was time to talk about his beer preferences and gave him some suggestions for better imported beer if he cared to look into them. The exact comments (I'm copying and pasting here) that ensured -

    Friend 1: "Replace that Heineken with a cup of piss. Upgrade!"
    Friend 2 (original poster): "Sorry I don't shit bitch beer like you do. I'm a man and I drink man beer with flavor not Labatt Blue that taste like water and hops. Talk to me when you grow some hair on your balls."
    Random person: "Go Randy!!! (aka Friend 1) Heineken is the best!"

    Keep in mind I only associate with these guys out of necessity :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  13. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California


    Ok. When? Where?
     
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  14. Bones10

    Bones10 Pundit (901) Feb 23, 2013 Illinois

    I used to drink Bud Light. I loved it, even though I'd tried Sierra Nevada Pale Ale at age 20, I drank Bud Light. My branching out included Corona (with a lime!!), Bud Light Lime, and the over the top Bass (still a decent macro). There were some adventures out of the norm to Blue Moon, Newcastle and the like, but it was Bud Light 90% of the time. I mocked Coors light drinkers for drinking water, I laughed at Miller Lite drinkers for drinking "Panther Piss" (TM). I was shocked that people would drink a "heavy" beer like Bud all night??!! All this well into my 30's. (opens another Big Eye IPA from Ballast Point, yay!). I never thought the weird labels and crazy "dark" beers could be good. All the while, I tried new macro varieties here and there, never mocking the craft stuff (I was raised by wine snobs), but keeping a safe distance from that odd taste (hops) and high ABV. You see, a lot of BMC drinkers pride themselves on drinking an absurd amount of beers number-wise. "I must've had 20 beers last night! and still made it to work!" and I get that. Drinking is as fun as it gets a lot of the time.

    Babbling aside, I quit drinking for two entire years in my late 30's (trouble, so much trouble). When I had my priorities straight, I decided to grab a six of Bud Light, my old friend, and thought, "I used to drink this?". It wasn't awful the first time or the second, but by the third, I went searching for a new taste. I went quickly through Stella, Heineken and Grolsch, to Blue Moon varieties. I stumbled on Bell's Amber and something happened that I liked a lot. On a trip to Indy, my wife sent me out for drinks and I noticed the Bell's name on a really pricey number called Two Hearted Ale and I haven't looked back. Giving me the Two Hearted too early would have turned me off of my favorite beer in the world currently (that will change someday, as it should). But I found it because I decided I wanted more.

    I guess my point is that there is a lot of loyalty out there because you can get a cheap drunk with a non-offensive AAL that suits you and there is an environment that surrounds that, like everything else in life, that seeks to chastise outsiders simply because they are different. Open minded people are in short supply, and thinking for yourself is looked down upon these days, but life is full of so much BS that I could hardly blame someone for not putting better beer on the short list of things to get into.

    Beer is good. Drinking it with good people is better. Most of my friends are macro drinkers and welcome to come over any time, we can give each other crap all night, and it will be fun.

    I've been drinking, so......yeah........Cheers!
     
  15. lackenhauser

    lackenhauser Pooh-Bah (2,721) Dec 10, 2002 Maryland
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    Love me some BUD and will profess it until I am blue in the face. Cant abide any lite beer-it just does not have the snap and bite that a macro like BUD does. Will admit to drinking more Yuengling then BUD these days. Just bought a 30 pack of Genny Cream Ale. Maybe I will have a glass of Utopias tonight. Some minds you just wont change, snob or not.
     
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  16. Averwo

    Averwo Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2013 Iowa

    I drank Coors Light for years. Only cheap light beer I liked. That and Blue Moon. I'll drink the shit out of some Blue Moon if I go out for dinner somewhere. Then I started into the IPA's and other craft styles and never looked back. I still love Blue Moon though. Always will. Even though I've discovered the world of real Hefe's. I'll always love Blue Moon.
     
  17. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey

    There's plenty of loyal BMC drinkers that scoff at anything not their regular.

    But I've slowly but surely given my father some craft that I know he'd semi like (SN Summerfest, Heavy Seas Small Craft, etc) and he doesn't reject it.

    He doesn't like hops though...
     
  18. basscram

    basscram Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2006 Maine

    Did this one time. the bud light guy ended up thinking busch light was bud light
     
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  19. douginromeo

    douginromeo Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2013 Michigan

    Now that, is awesome!
     
  20. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey

    To his credit it probably is.
     
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