What is Anchor up to?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by alucard6679, Mar 21, 2017.

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  1. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona

    Ever since I first started getting into beer Anchor has been one of my favorites (they still are). I love that they focused on an amazing core lineup. Anchor Steam and Anchor Porter are probably both within my top 20 at least, and Anchor Christmas is one of the best things about winter. But it seems that lately the tone has changed and as a long time fan I don't quite know how to feel about it. I don't want to sound like that guy that wants to tell people how to run their business but from where I'm standing it seems like an odd shift with the past year or two. A lot of releases from them that seem a bit lackluster and maybe even a bit forced. Like now they have a fruit flavored IPA? Is it just a sign of the times? I don't know. Still love 'em, but I figured I'd see if any of you guys have some insight/opinion or have been feeling the same way?

    Cheers!
     
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  2. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Maytag was content to let Anchor remain the same size. The new aren't that's all that going on. Have to agree with you that the new releases seem forced and don't meet the high standards of the core lineup.
     
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  3. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    I agree in regards to their mediocre (IMO) new releases except for their lager. I love that beer. I'd buy it more often if it weren't so pricey.
     
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  4. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    The lager is a great brew but I consider it part of the core now.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I had to go to the Anchor website to look that up: a Blackberry IPA!?!

    My guess is that Anchor is creating all of these new beers to provide the beer consumers that are interested in the 'next new thing' something to buy. Sierra Nevada added two new year round beers in 2016: Sidecar (brewed with orange) and Tropical IPA.

    The business environment for distributing craft breweries is very, very competitive right now. It seems that many (most?) of the large(r) distributing craft breweries think this means they need to add more and 'exciting' beers to their product line to increase (or maintain) sales?

    Cheers!
     
  6. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Most likely the new beers coming out are to adapt to the new trends because you need to adapt to survive. And I believe the Christmas ale is a different recipe every year. You may have just gotten bunk batches you didn't care for although I hear last year's was one of the best in recent memory.
     
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  7. zp6167a

    zp6167a Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2011 District of Columbia

    I also feel that Mark Carpenter's stepping down from his head brewer duties (after having brewed for them for 40 years) has played a pretty significant role in the changes at Anchor over the past year plus as well.
     
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  8. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I dunno, for whatever reason that Blackberry IPA caught my eye. I'm game to give a few bottles a shot.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Michael, let me know what you think of this beer.

    Cheers!
     
  10. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona

    That is likely, all things considered. It's just shocking as it's the last brewery I always expected that from. I hope they can make it work though, and I'll continue to support them. Just odd at first, you know?

    Oh and I love Christmas Ale (especially the fact that they switch it up every year), this past season's as well. Not sure if that came across wrong in my OP.
     
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  11. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona

    Just noticed it the other day and have yet to try it, but I plan to. It's just weird because I've always seen Anchor as that brewery that sort of seems to transcend the current trends of the beer world and live on their own terms. Probably an unrealistic notion, just the way it always seemed.
     
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  12. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona


    Are you referring to the California Lager? I did like that, but they have a lemon lager now that I was excited to try but really didn't care for.
     
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  13. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona


    This is true, definitely a very competitive time and it's interesting to see how a lot if the established breweries are handling that. Breweries like Stone are especially interesting to watch right now.

    I liked Sidecar from Sierra Nevada, could see myself buying it from time to time. Wasn't bug on the Tropical Torpedo though...Like, it wasn't bad, but I'd probably rather just have regular Torpedo. Cheers!
     
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  14. reefer_bob

    reefer_bob Savant (1,010) May 13, 2014 California
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    I've been quite disappointed by the majority of their new beers. I really like their core line up.

    Go West IPA was not good, Anchor IPA was also substandard, the Spring Saison was vile, double liberty, odeprot... all meh.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have had Sidecar a few times (draft pints). I think it is a nice, enjoyable beer. I don't know whether I would choose to buy a 6-pack of this beer but I did enjoy drinking those draft pints on those few occasions.

    I have yet to try Tropical IPA but I will order a draft pint once I see it on tap.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Blackberry? Please elaborate?
     
  17. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    No problem. I'll report back here most likely. It'll be some time in April, though.

    It's all over my Twitter feed lately, called Blackberry Daze, so that's all I know. I'm hoping that it's a nicely balanced blend of flavors, and not similar to a wine cooler. If it's hoppy like an IPA that would seem a good bet.
     
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  18. BeerVikingSailor

    BeerVikingSailor Grand Pooh-Bah (3,667) Nov 19, 2009 Ohio
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    Anchor Brewing has been one of my all time favorite breweries for many decades.....since Fritz and Mark C are no longer involved and there is new ownership, of course there will be some changes as they update their core brews and see what trends are popular out there now.....fruit in IPA's is obviously a big thing now, hence their new Blackberry Daze IPA.....I have enjoyed all there new beers, just wish our shitty NE OH distributor would get their beers out into the marketplace here on a more regular basis.....Anchor Steam, Anchor Liberty Ale, Our Special (Christmas) Ale, Old Foghorn, and Anchor Porter are all decades old icons that deserve respect and the honoring of their place in the modern "craft movement", which goes back to the 1970's.....cheers!
     
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  19. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Was excited for that Blackberry IPA, but really didn't like it all sadly. Just didn't work for me.
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have examples of fruited IPAs that you did like?

    Cheers!
     
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