What Makes a Good Barrel Aged Beer

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  1. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Barrel-aging can have direct and indirect influences on the flavor of a beer:

    Direct: wood tannins and flavoring from any residual spirits in the barrels can have a small or large effect on the flavor depending on the length of the aging. In terms of barrel-character, I like to see some vanilla/caramel notes from the charred oak, some mild tannic woodiness, and a noticeable but not overwhelming presence of the spirit previously held. Bad barrel-aged beers for me are ones that have far too much or far too little spirit presence, and have an overly tannic, woody bitterness to them (these often taste "washed out" to me).

    Indirect: aging in barrels will result in oxidation (how much depends on how long the beer was in the barrels and how tightly the barrel is sealed). I do like getting a hint of sherry-like oxidation in malt-forward barrel-aged beers sometimes.
     
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  2. victory4me

    victory4me Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    What beers have you had aged in gin barrels?
     
  3. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    I think this is the last one I had that I really enjoyed:
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/72/86497

    Of course, you're not going to find many, as not many people age their gin in barrels :wink:
     
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  4. MarioM

    MarioM Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2009 California

    A great base beer.
     
  5. Flibber

    Flibber Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 England

    Brettanomyces!
     
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  6. Schwantz

    Schwantz Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2012 Florida

    Ownership
     
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  7. TravisR

    TravisR Zealot (591) Dec 31, 2012 New Jersey

    Also, what portion of the beer has been barrel aged. They can range from 100% barrel aged to as little as 25% barrel aged blend.
     
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  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Why would you want to ruin makers mark like that???
     
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  9. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    Unless intentional (bugs or wild yeasts added) a BA Stout shouldn't have a sour taste to it. Sounds like you got an infected bottle!
     
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  10. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Rogue's John John with Juniper is what I was thinking of, and it was aged in Spruce Gin barrels. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/132/60094

    It seems like there was another version of John John that was aged is a different kind of unusual barrel, but I can't find anything about it.
     
  11. dortenzio1991

    dortenzio1991 Crusader (486) Aug 12, 2011 Connecticut

    Hype and availability mostly
     
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  12. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    When the qualities of the wood used add to the beer, help it blend, and make it better. When using bourbon or other liquored barrels, a lot of the time they just increase the hotness of the thing, washing away some of that amazing base flavoring. If you can marry the alcohol, the base, and the nuances of the wood itself, you've done it right.
     
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  13. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Hiding the abv, imho, helps.
     
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  14. kell50

    kell50 Pooh-Bah (2,334) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina
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    In my opinion..

    Good beer and good barrels.
     
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  15. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Savant (1,000) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    Wow, I didn't even think of that, because I've never had an infected bottle. I actually powered through the bottle and it was awful. I won't be doing that again now that I know that's a possible sign of infection. Thanks!
     
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  16. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Yup...thick, creamy mouthfeel. Flavors of vanilla, caramel, toffee. The flavors will come with time in the barrel but the base beer needs to be suitably thick
     
  17. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    I picked up a 4 pack of that the other day and you're right, it is terrible. It's awfully thin and has a slight but nonetheless unpleasant sourness to it. No real barrel character, just a note of whiskey. It's as if someone dropped half a shot of whiskey into a mediocre watery stout
     
  18. fastenoughforphish

    fastenoughforphish Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 Illinois


    Then add barrel.
     
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  19. syu3003

    syu3003 Initiate (0) May 4, 2011 Michigan

    What i look for in a good Ba stout is depth, body, and how much the barrel is apparent in the beer. Balance plays a role as well in terms of drinkability, but the first three things is what does it for me. Being "too hot" upfront is something that changes over time and is a fun characteristic to experiment with.
     
  20. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    You could certainly do that, though a shot is far too much. While it can produce the desired effect it does not adequately duplicate the barrel aging process. You certainly do not pick up the oak presence or allow the beer to mellow and meld with the spirits.
     
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