What would you do?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by BigJoeC, Apr 18, 2019.

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  1. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    10g batch (split 5 & 5 to ferment)

    GRAINS
    18.25# 2 row
    2.5# maris otter
    1# Vienna
    1# Munich

    HOPS (on hand)
    about 8oz Citra
    about 8oz Centennial
    1oz Magnum

    using 1pk Nottingham and 1pk BRY97 West Coast Ale

    Curious the hop additions you all figure. Was thinking:
    1oz Magnum @60
    2oz Centennial @40
    2oz Centennial @0
    5oz Citra @0

    Dry hop remaining Citra and some Centennial
     
  2. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I would move the 40 minute Centennial addition to flameout, or add it to the carboys during active fermentation. But it should still be tasty if you make no changes.
     
  3. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Thanks. That was suggested by a friend as well. Actually, said 5 and 5 at flameout. It's going to be a lighter color than I hoped for but still good. Looking for a citrus bomb
     
  4. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    West Coast IPA.

    60 min/ or FW for bittering
    30 /15/ FO/ WP Dry Hop
    Using brewing software, adjust and tune the bitterness ya want.

    Heavy Centennial. Citra for late and dry hop
     
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It could just be me, but I have had trouble with BRY-97 leaving diacetyl behind, something I have never experienced with Notthingam. If I brew with BRY-97 again, I will take some precautions, such as raising temps towards the end of fermentation, doing a diacetyl force test before deciding to package, keeping beer in primary longer than usual, and keeping some DME or canned wort and US-05 on hand to make a small starter to be pitched into a keg if I get tricked into kegging and then discover diacetyl.

    Outside of my paranoia about BRY-97 and diacetyl, I like your recipe. I'd probably also use the centennial later, but I haven't plugged the recipe into beersmith to look at IBUs. I would think an oz of Magnum is a good bittering dose, though, and you wouldn't really need to get more bitterness that would come from 40 min addition. Plus, I love centennial aroma and would seek to maintain some of that by whirlpool or dry hop.
     
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    The 97 yeast only yeild 7 drain pour batches for me, never again. I'd get another pack of notty or 05 .
     
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  7. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I never had good luck with bry97 either
     
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  8. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Darn! Guess I need to run out for another pack of Nottingham.
     
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  9. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Here's a question, if I am sitting the 10 into 2 5s to ferment, what might any of you do to create differences? I planned on the 2 types of yeast but will just get another Nottingham
     
  10. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Dry hop one with just citra and the other with just centennial, see which version you like best
     
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  11. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    That's exactly what I'll do.
     
  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Interesting experient. Care to predict which one you'll like better?
     
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  13. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I would go with roughly equal amounts when you dry hop so it is a fair comparison. This likely means you need to adjust the other hops a tiny bit, but it will be worth it because SCIENCE.

    But to do real SCIENCE, you need to do a small number of triangle tests with your friends so you really know which version is better.







    p.s. just kidding about the triangle test part :slight_smile:
     
  14. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    +1 for the Citra camp
     
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  15. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I'm guessing I'll like the Citra one better.
     
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  16. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Yeah. Since I have 4.5g in one and 5g in the other I'll dry hop 2.25oz and 2.5oz respectively. I'll do a first dose around day 4 and a second dose around day 7 then sit for 3 more days. Total will be 4.5 and 5 ounces of dry hop.
     
  17. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    That's the way I'd go too.
     
  18. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I do these kind of experiments every time I brew. It’s usually dryhops or yeast as the variable but my latest batch used clarity ferm in half and the beers are identical in case anyone else was wondering if the clarity ferm enzyme messes with hop aroma
     
  19. warchez

    warchez Zealot (545) Oct 19, 2004 Massachusetts

    I have found that the quality of Citra hops is quite variable for homebrewers. Certainly more so than Centennial. So don't be surprised if the Centennial batch turns out better. There's a reason why Bells Two Hearted is still a very popular beer.
     
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  20. secondbase

    secondbase Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2015 Tennessee

    I'd move the 40 min addition to 15 or 5 minutes. I think centennial truly shines in the 15-5 addition mark. A lot of people are poo-pooing bry-97 and while my experience with it has been that it's slow to start and finish, the beers I've made with it have been very good (once they finished)
     
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