What's brewing August edition

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  1. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Would very much like to hear your recipe and the rest of your technique on this beer.
     
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  2. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I usually add it during the mash, during a short secondary, and at packaging. Fun ingredient.
     
  3. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    There is a 25 page on another forum where homebrewers talk about stuff. Googling "raw ale no boil" puts the link second on my page.

    It worked out well and saved 1.5 hours on brewday. The mouthfeel and head retention is excellent. The last thing I'm looking for is the stability of the beer and haze over the next 4 weeks.

    My understanding is there are 3 primary reasons to boil:
    1. Sanitize
    2. Getting bitterness from hops
    3. Boiling off DMS off flavors.

    BUT..
    1. Pasteurization occurs at 161F for 15 seconds, so a 60 minute boil is overkill
    2. In a NEIPA, I add no hops during boil.
    3. DMS flavors start to form when wort temp goes above 175F

    So I hit that 168F temp to pasteurize, but don't let it get hot enough to form DMS flavors.

    Process:
    70 min mash at 154F
    Heat 6.5 gallons wort to 168F
    Whirlpool 4oz hops for 20 mins, it naturally cooled to about 155F during this.
    Whirlpool another 4oz hops for 20 mins.
    Cool to 70F
    Pitch London 3, ferment at 70F
    Dryhop 3oz 24 hours after pitching yeast starter
    Dryhop 3oz 4 days before kegging
    Dryhop 2oz in keg.

    The recipe is typical NEIPA:
    64% 2 row
    21% Thomas fawcett oat malt
    7% flaked oats
    4% honey malt
    4% acidulated malt
    16oz hops (8oz citra, 8oz mosaic for this one)
    Wyeast 1318
     
  4. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'd include coagulation of proteins and concentration of wort to that as well, but the first two are certainly the most important, with the second being number one by far.

    Not to get into a DMS discussion here, but with modern malts SMM conversion to DMS happens quite slowly below 95C, while DMS volatility remains high between 50C and 100C, so any DMS that might be created will be volatilized rather quickly.
     
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  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the reference . . .

    . . . and the recipe.
     
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  6. dukedevil0

    dukedevil0 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2008 Illinois

    just curious, how do you personally keep the dry hops from clogging up the dip tube or poppits of the keg? are you putting all dry hops in bags/screens, using filter screens over the dip tube, cutting the dip tube, etc?
     
  7. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    Yes to all three.
    I suspend the tube so about half way through the keg the hops are no longer in contact
     
  8. dukedevil0

    dukedevil0 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2008 Illinois

    ok, sorry hopefully last questions for now... do you do anything to minimize oxygen when transferring from fermenter to keg? Aside from purging the keg with CO2? How are you cold crashing?
     
  9. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    I ferment in a plastic bucket in a mini fridge with a heat belt around it hooked up to an inkbird temp controller. After about 8 days of fermenting, I set it to 40F... but my mini fridge is a little old and only gets it down to 44F for two days in the primary fermentor for cold crashing.

    Then I transfer to a purged keg with an autosiphon. I'm still trying to find a way to do a closed transfer, but I haven't noticed any oxygenation issues within the first 6 weeks of my NEIPAs.

    The keg goes in a fridge that is 42F, so a little more cold crashing occurs... but I've got the dip tube cut a bit and the mesh around the diptube. So I don't notice any issue with it.
     
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  10. MmmmmmBeer123

    MmmmmmBeer123 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2015 Connecticut

    Been a pretty busy and fun brew month so far! Got myself immersed in a big thread on another homebrewing site that revolves around yeast(s) being used by Treehouse for their NEIPAs.

    I made a 0.5BBL batch of my standard NEIPA base wort recipe and used Citra/Mosaic hops.

    Then, I split it into 3 fermenters and did the following:

    FV#1: Used WY1318. Pitched from a starter at standard ~0.75M cells/ml/*P This was ferm-hopped at day 3. Then was transferred to a keg and was slowly force-carbed. Added keg hops.

    FV#2: Same as above transferred to a keg when fermentation was complete. Added keg hops and naturally carbing/conditioning with CBC-1.

    FV#3: Did an initial pitch of S-04 and T-58. Added some WB-06 with ferm hops after ~2.5days. Transferred to a keg when fermentation was complete. Added keg hops and naturally carbing/conditioning with CBC-1.

    Looking forward to next week when I plan to do a side-by-side-by-side comparison of all 3 batches!!!
     
  11. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    You mean the bag of hops...not the tube, right?
     
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  12. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    Wow! That would be fun :slight_smile:
     
  13. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I kegged up my 10 gallons of Red IPA tonight. Half got Simcoe, Citra, Nugget, and CTZ pellets. The other half got freshly picked and dried Columbus, Centennial, Cascade, and Chinook. Added my Biofine, and set at 30 psi to carb it up by tomorrow. Really looking forward to drinking this beer next week.

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    Also cleaned all my keg lines, 5 kegs, and added my Nectarine Blossom yeast to a Gose I brewed on Monday night. Down to 3.5 pH and should drop a few more as the Lacto is still active.
     
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  15. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, OK, the 400 Micron screen "tube" is basically a high priced fine mesh hop bag (2" X 24") :
    http://www.thebeveragepeople.com/nylon-hop-bag-or-chip-bag-2-x-24-fine-mesh-details.html

    The other "dip tube screen" is pretty much unusable (by their own admission)
     
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  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Squeezing in an extract table saison today.
     
  17. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    August has been BUSY! Made a Citra IPA, came out great my best IPA to date. A couple of weeks ago I brewed a Chinook IPA which will be kegged and dry hopped this weekend. Yeast starter going now for Black IPA I'm brewing this weekend. I usually like to mix up my styles but that damn IPA day sale at Northern Brewer got me good!
     
  18. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    From turning on the faucet to putting away cleaned equipment, this took 4 hours today. I highly recommend trying an extract brew here and there for brewers that have moved on to all-grain. Even though it costs twice as much, if you value your time and just want to get an easy drinker on, extract is the way to go.
     
  19. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Agreed. With beers that don't focus on malt complexity, extract is a great tool to use if you want to conserve time.
     
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  20. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I do this once a year for Teach A Friend to Brew Day
     
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