When should I brew a stout for winter?

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  1. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    I do it with all of my extract brews, dry or liquid.

    Regarding DMS - from what I understand, the volatiles of DMS are boiled off during the extract production process - only reason we boil LME at all is to sterilize it (and for hop utilization).
     
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  2. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Interesting, I thought alpha acids were pulled out by 60 minute or longer boils. Longer boil more alpha, or so I thought.
     
  3. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I think this is more important for lighter beers or heavily hopped beers. For a stout, some Maillard reactions might be desirable.

    DMS is not that big of an issue with extract brewing, but you probably don't want to brew with your lid on tight.
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, the longer you boil hops, the more of their alphas acids are isomerized.
     
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  5. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Great info's everyone, I appreciate it. So, I was thinking to do a bourbon soak on the vanilla beans in for aging. And I thought: why not use use of this medium toast oak chip while I'm at it. I'm not looking for super strong oak flavors, I'd like vanilla more than anything. So 2 or 3 beans, and 1 to 1.2 oz of oak chips, and not a lot of bourbon, maybe 4-6 oz for about 5 gallons in secondary for about 2 weeks. Does that sound about right?
     
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  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Yes, that sounds fine.
     
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  7. MarriedAtGI

    MarriedAtGI Zealot (569) Feb 26, 2013 Illinois

    I had thought the same, but helped my son make an extract porter last weekend with Munton's extra light DME. It smelled like freaking tomato juice prior to the boil and even for a while into the boil.

    (I've also read that you don't get hot break from DME. I have definitely seen hot break with Briess Pilsen DME in a starter. Egg drop soup but small clumps.)
     
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  8. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    I use Munton's extra light DME quite a bit - never had an experience like that before. Shitty batch maybe?

    I also get a hot break whenever I use DME as well.
     
  9. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I do get hot break when using DME. I'll get back to you on the LME.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    JH will be happy to hear that. By Hot Break, do you mean some foaming, or do you mean Egg Drop Soup?
     
  11. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    On my saison experiments with light pils malt I've gotten both.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Pics? JH promised extract hot break pics, but hasn't 'yet' delivered. Would love to see some DME egg drop soup (i.e. serious extract hot break).
     
  13. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    That I can't do as it's all fermenting and I have no plans to do another batch. I'm willing to admit my definition of hot break may vary from yours since I use extract, and I'm not a very experienced brewer. So I may in fact be calling an apple an orange. I took hot break to be the foam boil over, and / or clumping of solids in the wort making a sort of suspension.
     
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