when should I cold crash my homebrew

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  1. Jduche17

    Jduche17 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2015 Canada (QC)

    So it's still my first brew and after two weeks in the fermentor things seem fine on my IPA ive dry hoped it and was planing on bottling next week end after 3 weeks fermentation . My question was should i cold crash while its in the fermentor or once its bottled ? is one better than the other and will it make a notable difference . Even should i cold crash in both fermentor and bottle ? thank you for the feed back .
     
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    There isn't an exact right answer, because there is a trade off between the increased risk of oxidation transferring cold beer as opposed to room temperature beer with the added clarity and lack of sedimentation from cold crashing. Best practice would be to cold crash your fermenter for a week, allow to come back to room temperature over night, and then transfer to the bottling bucket at room temperature. The bottles will of course need to be kept warm to carbonate.

    I would add the additional step of stirring some gelatin into your primary two days into your cold crash.
     
  3. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    If the hops have settled to the bottom on their own, I'd recommend not cold crashing at all. All bottle conditioned beers will have some sediment anyway, so there isn't much benefit to reducing it prior to bottling.
     
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  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I'm not saying there is a problem with this approach. But...if you want a beer that is clearer quicker and with less sediment, I would go with the above approach...cold crash, gelatin, back to room temp and then bottle.

    Yes, all beers have some sediment, but I'm sure we've all had some beers with a lot more sediment in the bottle than we would prefer, especially if it's a not very flocculent yeast strain or there is heavy dry hopping.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    With bottle conditioned beer you simply decant the beer off the sediment. Does it really matter if you decant off 1/32nd inch vs. 1/16th inch of sediment?

    Cheers!
     
  6. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Besides having less beer in the glass? I've had some beers over the years with more like 1/4 inch or 1/2 inch of sediment. Plus some yeast strains seem to stick to the bottom of the bottle better than others. It seems with less sediment it's easier to get a clearer pour from the bottle with less beer waste. When there is a lot of sediment you have two choices to make, either a very clear pour and leave a lot of beer behind, or allow some of the sediment in the glass and leave behind only the very firm bottom layer of sediment.

    But as I said, nothing wrong with the non-cold crash approach. Just be prepared to either be very patient, be ok with cloudy beer, and/or don't mind leaving a good amount behind in the bottle to get a clear pour.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Sedimentation will happen faster in the bottle, although it requires more care in presentation. Some people don't like having the sediments in the bottle, but they don't have to end up in the glass. Best to use a continuous careful pour
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Wow! I bottle condition my beers and I have never experienced anything like that. I recently measured the amount of sediment in my homebrewed ale and it was just under 1/16th inch of sediment. I do not cold crash my beers.

    I personally have never experienced any issues with non-flocculent sediment but maybe I am just a careful pourer?

    Cheers!
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Amen brother!!

    Cheers!
     
  10. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    The two that jump to mind are hefeweizen strains and German ale. Obviously not an issue for the hefeweizen. For both I'll notice a sticky bottom layer of sediment with a much looser top layer that is much harder to not pour in the glass. Years ago I noticed this issue with some UK strains (windsor especially was problematic if I recall correctly), but it was not a problem with the more flocculent UK strains.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I use Wyeast 1007 when I homebrew my Altbiers. I have never noticed any issues when decanting these beers. I have a batch right now that is in bottles cool conditioning. In another week or so I will 'road test' this batch. I will have to take another look-see on this batch and whether the sediment is an issue while decanting.

    Cheers!
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have a Robust Porter that I brewed a few months ago using Windsor and that beer pours just fine from a sediment perspective.

    I have brewed a number (10ish) batches of Bitter Ale using Windsor. I never experienced any pouring issues with those multiple batches.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I guessing our observations are probably based on our personal tolerance levels for the amount of sedimentation in a pour. I'm not a cloudy beer hater by any definition but I love a crystal clear pour with most beer styles.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Or equivalently it could be a variable of pouring skill.

    Cheers!
     
  15. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Some swear must cold crash.
    Others meh, why bother, eh?
    Both produce clear beer.

    -HoMeBRew HiaKu
     
  16. Kaingers

    Kaingers Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2015 North Carolina

    Cold crash in the fermenter at least 24 hours before bottling and don't worry about using gelatin.
     
  17. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    Wouldnt stirring in gelatin increase your exposure to oxygen? I would think this would be a big concern with a hop forward beer
     
  18. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    It does increase the risk. But only a quick gentle stir is needed. You probably get just as much agitation moving the fermenter around.
     
  19. gcg49

    gcg49 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2014 Texas

    Would you be able to point me in the direction of some sort of article or documentation regarding the increased risk of oxidation transferring cold beer? Haven't heard this before and would like to read more. I've been cold crashing and transferring immediately without returning to room temp. Never saw any impact compared to beers where I skipped the cold crash step.
     
  20. Jduche17

    Jduche17 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2015 Canada (QC)

    I actually like cloudy beers better than clear ones , i find that they seem more craft quality , where i live most craft breweries have cloudy beers I find that they seem more quality and i am willing to pay more for them , could be a location thing as well . This in mind maybe i shouldn't cold crash .
     
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