When the beer comes out too clean.

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  1. JZH1000

    JZH1000 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Nov 7, 2021 Colorado
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    I've been thinking, my last brew was supposed to be a session Belgian style pale ale with wheat, but it almost turned out too clean. It lacks the Belgian character I was really looking for and all the yeasty flavors and aromas are mostly bready with some light but bright citrus notes. Otherwise this is a super smooth easy drinking pale malty ale, but I just expected more spicy fruity notes out of it. ABV is only about 5%, but still. The temps were in the high 60s the whole time with no rise into the low 70s. Could that be the culprit? Yeast was WLP500 Monastery Ale Yeast.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That'd be my guess.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Fermenting warmer (e.g., in the 70's) will increase the production of 'Belgiany' flavors (e.g., esters). Another 'knob' you could tweak is pitching amount (i.e., pitch a lesser amount of yeast).

    Cheers!
     
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  4. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I'm guessing that you overpitched. A little abuse of the yeast via underpitching for Belgians might be worth a shot.
     
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  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Belgian can be difficult to dial in. I don't have much experience with the monastic strains, because I tend to use saison strains. I pitch what the calculator tells me, have a dose of nutrient in the boil, cool to around 64-70, pitch, and let free rise. I ferment in my basement, so a pretty stable ambient temperature, but it still fluctuates with the seasons. Best results for fruitiness have been in the dead of summer.
     
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  6. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    Next time don't clean or sanitize your equipment.
     
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  7. JZH1000

    JZH1000 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Nov 7, 2021 Colorado
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    I'll keep that in mind haha
     
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  8. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    I'm fermenting a Belgian style beer with WLP500 right now. I am doing a series of low-fermentation temperature beers this winter (go figure). Most of the yeast I am using is suited for lower temps, but not all of them. This one with the WLP500, which is one of my favorite strains, is at the end of the second week in the primary. I pitched at 64.5 degrees F and I've monitored it closely between 60 and 65F. Average about 62F.
    I'll take a sample later today and tell you what I taste.
     
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  9. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    Not as much of the unique WLP500 character stands out, but the aroma is there. The characteristic "plum" is there. I think it's blending nice with a rather heavy dose of Briess Aromatic :slight_smile:
     
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  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Cool that you're avoiding the banana I always got from it. Otherwise, I really liked it.
     
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