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  1. Beer_Mitch

    Beer_Mitch Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Iowa

    I have a hoppy red fermenting right now that I have high hopes for and would like to enter it in a competition pending the outcome. The beer is pale ale malt, Munich 10, c120, and Carapils. Bittered with magnum and has a good amount of Amarillo late in the boil and dry hop. Comes in at 50-55 IBU, 14 SRM, and about 6% abv (if it hits my expected fg.) Fermented with WLP004.

    So my question is where to categorize it? By the 2008 guidelines it's too hoppy for Irish Red Ale but I don't think it fits an IPA category either. Suggestions? Thanks in advanced!
     
  2. bushycook

    bushycook Zealot (681) Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    Don't know anything about comps, but it sounds like an imperial red/amber to me.
     
  3. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Not sure of the number or category of the top of my head but sounds like an American Amber ale to me.
     
  4. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    It hits all the marks for American IPA, but of course it won't score well there because it's a deep red color and maybe too sweet and not enough hops. (And this truth is a damn shame, too.) What you could try instead is to enter it as an ESB. A lot of judges don't know what the hell an ESB really is, plus the style guidelines provide a ton of latitude for this style, so you could rock their world in the ESB category. That's my suggestion.
     
  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    The same route would be Specialty Beer (23), but I would be tempted to enter as an American Amber Ale (10B). If feeling especially mischievous maybe both.
     
  6. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    I would enter it as an American amber; http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style10.php#1b

    Just looking at your ingredients and noting what is says in the guidelines is a pretty good match to what you used. It might be a bit over hopped, but enter in a West Coast Competition, we tend to like hops a bit more so you might not get dinged as much.
    Ingredients: Pale ale malt, typically American two-row. Medium to dark crystal malts. May also contain specialty grains which add additional character and uniqueness. American hops, often with citrusy flavors, are common but others may also be used. Water can vary in sulfate and carbonate content.
     
  7. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    American Amber all the way.
     
  8. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    American Amber is one of those categories I almost never enter. Basically many judges tend to look to be smacked over the head with caramel, demand more hops, and reward beers that are bigger than the category. The category tends to have a bunch of "Session IPAs" in the APA style that are basically Hop Juice so by the time they get to 10B anything not-that-hoppy sticks out.

    /rant

    ...10B could indeed be a good place for your beer. Don't know just how hoppy it will be or how much the caramel shows.

    good luck--
    --Michael
     
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  9. GUNSLINGER

    GUNSLINGER Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Colorado

    I'd go American Amber all the way.

    I've had a few red India ales early in my competition days that were enters as IPA's due to being so hoppy; I got dinged on points due to color.

    Enters the same beer in another comp a few weeks later into American amber and won 1st place.

    Judges from the first comp all gave notes to enter into American amber as they would have scored it very high in that category.

    Really it all depends on the judges that show up that day

    If you have enough enter it into multiple categories and get feedback.
     
  10. nickfl

    nickfl Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2006 Florida

    I agree that amber ale would be your best shot. But don't get your hopes up, anything that is between styles like this is really a crapshoot.
     
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